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Message 60637 - Posted: 11 Jul 2019, 23:03:54 UTC

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Message 60640 - Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 2:07:39 UTC - in response to Message 60637.  

The people who survive to form the next civilization will be smarter.
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Message 60641 - Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 3:23:55 UTC - in response to Message 60640.  

The people who survive to form the next civilization will be smarter.


I wouldn't count on it.
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Message 60644 - Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 6:38:07 UTC - in response to Message 60641.  

The people who survive to form the next civilization will be smarter.


I wouldn't count on it.

Guaranteed. They can't be dumber.
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Message 60645 - Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 8:24:37 UTC - in response to Message 60644.  

The people who survive to form the next civilization will be smarter.


I wouldn't count on it.

Guaranteed. They can't be dumber.


I thought that about some previous generations of politicians!
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Message 60646 - Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 10:18:05 UTC - in response to Message 60640.  

The people who survive to form the next civilization will be smarter.


... if any at all survive ...
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Message 60647 - Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 11:42:09 UTC - in response to Message 60645.  

I thought that about some previous generations of politicians!

I know. We won't mention any names.

But people can survive above the Arctic (Antarctic) circle. Then the next ice age will drive them back south. I am beginning to think that evolution is driven by ice ages. We need them to make progress.
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Message 60648 - Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 12:38:28 UTC - in response to Message 60647.  
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There's more than a slight chance that anthropogenic global warming could trigger a runaway scenario ending in global conditions that would last millions of years.
eg Release of all the methane in the Tundra.

Look at the Eocene conditions for comparison, lasting 23 million years.

Once planetary climatic conditions become extreme, there are no quick solutions even in geological timescales. Recovery from the KT impact was in the order of 4 to 9 million years.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, the two Snowball Earth scenarios both lasted 10 million years.
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Message 60650 - Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 13:15:34 UTC - in response to Message 60648.  

Those are real possibilities. But Snowball Earth was ended by volcanic eruptions. They can occur on any time scale. And then there are meteors.

They are all great incentives for rapid development of our technologies.
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