I'm really confused now. I was showing about 47000 credits. Then I joined the 'United Kingdom' group. Then I suspended my client while I did some other work. Then I restarted my client.

Now, I'm showing zero credits. What happened?

[hmm] Maybe it's just coincidence. I notice on the top participant list, everyone is showing zero credits and user since today.

Looks like Carl's playing around with trickle credits. You've got 151.23 credits now.

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&gt; Looks like Carl's playing around with trickle credits. You've got 151.23
&gt; credits now.

And it was at about 300 a while ago. But where has the 47000 gone?

Have a look at http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=125

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&gt; &gt; Looks like Carl's playing around with trickle credits. You've got
&gt; 151.23
&gt; &gt; credits now.
&gt;
&gt; And it was at about 300 a while ago. But where has the 47000 gone?
&gt;
&gt;
47000 ???

That must be just timesteps ;)

as you've noticed, I was trying to (finally) implement CPDN/BOINC credits. Here is the "logic" I'm trying which should hopefully make sense:

1) trickles determine your "credit" until the end of a run. so some alpha testers that have brought their runs over are "ahead" since they may be in phase 2 or 3 already

2) the "cobblestone equivalency" seems to be right at 0.007 per timestep, so I've put that in my master model table (i.e. different models in the future will have different complexities so may be more or perhaps less cobblestones per timestep)

3) I base it on model progress rather than just CPU time (although cpu time is tracked of course).

4) in result table: granted_credit should be your total credit per result to date (or per user, cpu, team etc), and claimed_credit would be the "incremental" credit (i.e. the difference from the last trickle I received)

5) in user/team/host tables I am just using my own "validator" based on the traditional BOINC one but that uses the "incremental" credit to tack onto the appropriate fields

6) hopefully this isn't too open to cheating and manipulation but we'll see

&gt; &gt; &gt; Looks like Carl's playing around with trickle credits. You've got
&gt; &gt; 151.23
&gt; &gt; &gt; credits now.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; And it was at about 300 a while ago. But where has the 47000 gone?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; 47000 ???
&gt;
&gt; That must be just timesteps ;)
&gt;

ah actually I think there was an "intermediate" stage when I realized BOINC does things "incrementally" and not "cumulatively" like I did on CPDN, so credits were just adding way to fast. It should be normal now.

I also see where they have fields in the tables for bringing in user's old SETI numbers, so I may see if I can setup that to bring over old CPDN stats numbers.

&gt;&gt;It should be normal now.

It looks like all the users have gone back to zero and are accumulating credit normally, but the teams are still showing the huge accumulation from before the fix.

it should be OK now, BOINC has a built-in caching mechanism for php pages so apparently the old (bad) team stats were still there, but they look sensible now.

&gt; it should be OK now, BOINC has a built-in caching mechanism for php pages so
&gt; apparently the old (bad) team stats were still there, but they look sensible
&gt; now.
&gt;
So how does that square off against me having more of a Recent Average Credit than a total credit? ;)

(97.90 against 75.61)
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Jordâ„¢

&gt; So how does that square off against me having more of a Recent Average Credit
&gt; than a total credit? ;)
&gt;
&gt; (97.90 against 75.61)

I'll have to look at the BOINC code, it could be something like "recent avg credit" is "per day" and it thought the 75.61 (which was just generated today) was for .77 days or something (sort of like "earned run averages" in US baseball games)

&gt; &gt; So how does that square off against me having more of a Recent Average
&gt; Credit
&gt; &gt; than a total credit? ;)
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; (97.90 against 75.61)
&gt;
&gt; I'll have to look at the BOINC code, it could be something like "recent avg
&gt; credit" is "per day" and it thought the 75.61 (which was just generated today)
&gt; was for .77 days or something (sort of like "earned run averages" in US
&gt; baseball games)
&gt;
&gt;
That is correct. There is also a quirk in the formula so that the first time credit is granted the RAC is often overstated, it should go down to more normal levels at the next update.
<br>John Keck
BOINCing since 2002/12/08