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Message 31 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 15:16:07 UTC

Hi,

i would like to know how credit is givin at this point. Will you be credited for a trickle or only for full runs. When are trickles done?

Not that i\'m a stats whore (or yes i am) but i just want to know it. And if this isn\'t the final way, how will it be when it\'s finished?

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Message 39 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 15:52:24 UTC - in response to Message 31.  

> Hi,
>
> i would like to know how credit is givin at this point. Will you be credited
> for a trickle or only for full runs. When are trickles done?
>
> Not that i'm a stats whore (or yes i am) but i just want to know it. And if
> this isn't the final way, how will it be when it's finished?
>
> Greetz
> Pconfig
>

Hi Pconfig,

AFAIK, trickles are as usual every 10802 timesteps (x24 = 259248 phase timesteps, like cpdn 2.2.2x or BOINC Alpha...
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Message 44 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 16:18:51 UTC - in response to Message 39.  
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> > Hi,
> >
> > i would like to know how credit is givin at this point. Will you be
> credited
> > for a trickle or only for full runs. When are trickles done?
> >
> > Not that i'm a stats whore (or yes i am) but i just want to know it. And
> if
> > this isn't the final way, how will it be when it's finished?
> >
> > Greetz
> > Pconfig
> >
>
> Hi Pconfig,
>
> AFAIK, trickles are as usual every 10802 timesteps (x24 = 259248 phase
> timesteps, like cpdn 2.2.2x or BOINC Alpha...
>
>

And how many credits for each WU, Phase or Trickle can i get???
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Message 48 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 16:43:45 UTC - in response to Message 44.  

> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > i would like to know how credit is givin at this point. Will you be
> > credited
> > > for a trickle or only for full runs. When are trickles done?
> > >
> > > Not that i'm a stats whore (or yes i am) but i just want to know it.
> And
> > if
> > > this isn't the final way, how will it be when it's finished?
> > >
> > > Greetz
> > > Pconfig
> > >
> >
> > Hi Pconfig,
> >
> > AFAIK, trickles are as usual every 10802 timesteps (x24 = 259248 phase
> > timesteps, like cpdn 2.2.2x or BOINC Alpha...
> >
> >
>
> And how many credits for each WU, Phase or Trickle can i get???
>
>

Depends on the bencmark results * the cpu time!
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Message 65 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 17:47:25 UTC - in response to Message 48.  

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> Depends on the bencmark results * the cpu time!
>
>

will it make a difference wether i crunch only one model or two similiar ?
because while crunching 2 models at the same time, the CPU time increases of course.
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Message 72 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 18:44:53 UTC - in response to Message 65.  

> >
> > Depends on the bencmark results * the cpu time!
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> >
>
> will it make a difference wether i crunch only one model or two similiar ?
> because while crunching 2 models at the same time, the CPU time increases of
> course.
>
>

You will get a slight boost cause boinc is smarter than that you know :P
It doens't use full cpu time. If you run a program wich asks 100% of cpu the cpu time in boinc itself doens't rise!
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Message 75 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 18:48:45 UTC

Hi, all,

Not sure about how, or if, we'll keep CPDN accounts (Model Years, as before; or Time Steps; or Trickles) -- or whether we'll simply accrue an ever-larger rock heap (Cobblestones, to fit-in with other BOINC apps). No doubt we'll have the latter; one hopes the old units will also be used.

Rock piles. Lacks elegance, IMO. But each Cobblestone is supposed to be equal, whether earned in CPDN, SETI, Predictor, .... We'll see, eh?

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Message 87 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 19:13:51 UTC - in response to Message 31.  

to be honest I haven't worked out all the details, but since CPDN workunits take about a month, I will probably use trickles as "incremental credit" that gets validated upon the finish/upload. So it's sort of analogous to the SETI/BOINC where you get "partial" unvalidated credit until it can be compared to a canonical result etc.

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Message 98 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 19:38:34 UTC - in response to Message 87.  

> to be honest I haven't worked out all the details, but since CPDN workunits
> take about a month, I will probably use trickles as "incremental credit" that
> gets validated upon the finish/upload. So it's sort of analogous to the
> SETI/BOINC where you get "partial" unvalidated credit until it can be compared
> to a canonical result etc.
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Think it's called "claimed credit" in the seti project. But it has to be shown somewhere. If you want any help on the stats, just let me know, i'll be happy to help you :)
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Message 113 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 21:26:10 UTC
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Hi together,

it would be very good, if you keep the credit-system similar to the other boinc-projects.

I'm participating in Predictor@Home, Seti@Home and further, Boinc-Beta.

Under www.boinc.dk you can find a great site with stats. A User can see there his stats over all his projects he is participating (hm, looks wrong, please correct typos).

Here is a link to my personal stats:

<a href="http://www.boinc.dk/index.php?page=user_statistics&amp;project=pah&amp;userid=75"><img height="68" src="http://www.boinc.dk/auto.php?user=75&amp;project=pah&amp;input=1086001126+-+userstats&amp;layout=1086001126+-+userstats.jpg" border="0"></a> <IMG src="http://www.boinc.dk/auto.php?user=4238&amp;project=sah&amp;input=280_70_red_spider_nebula&amp;layout=280_70_red_spider_nebula">

At the bottom of the side, you can see all projects, I'm participating.

If ClimatePrediction is no longer isolated (= other projects running BOINC 4.x), ClimatePredicition will also appear on my stats

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Message 120 - Posted: 5 Aug 2004, 22:49:37 UTC - in response to Message 87.  

&gt; to be honest I haven't worked out all the details, but since CPDN workunits
&gt; take about a month, I will probably use trickles as "incremental credit" that
&gt; gets validated upon the finish/upload. So it's sort of analogous to the
&gt; SETI/BOINC where you get "partial" unvalidated credit until it can be compared
&gt; to a canonical result etc.
&gt;

Hi, Carl,

Does that mean the occasional "missed Trickles" problem has been zapped?

Cheers,
Jim
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