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Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 40 Credit: 4,596,406 RAC: 1,493 |
Hello, I have a P4 with 2,8 GHz and HT. I am running CPDN on one CPU and the Seti Classic on the other (emptying the queue). I am considering to run CPDN only and use HT for that. After reading through the FAQ, Forum and other sites, I am still a little puzzeled, so let me see if I got it right: 1) I can run CPDN under BOINC 4.13 on a computer with HT. And (usually) it does not crash. (There were some earlier messages somewhere where it did.) 2) If I do that, my computer works on 2 WU instead of one, so I need twice as much disk space (2x 700 MB), too. If the above is right, I have more questions: a) If I run CPDN only, will HT actually accelerate the calculation? b) If I run CPDN only, will the WUs still be swapped every 60 minutes (or whatever time intervall I set under preferences)? What/How will they be swapped, e.g. switch processors? c) Is there a way to temporarily (e.g. 30 minutes) to suspend calculation for just one of the two? Thanks lot for your help! Friedrich |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 186 Credit: 1,612,182 RAC: 0 |
> I have a P4 with 2,8 GHz and HT. I am running CPDN on one CPU and the > Seti Classic on the other (emptying the queue). > I am considering to run CPDN only and use HT for that. After reading > through the FAQ, Forum and other sites, I am still a little puzzeled, > so let me see if I got it right: >1) I can run CPDN under BOINC 4.13 on a computer with HT. And (usually) it >does not crash. (There were some earlier messages somewhere where it did.) I have two dual Xeon HT machines running four models each, they're doing fine to date. Many others are running two models on single physical CPU HT machines without any problems. > 2) If I do that, my computer works on 2 WU instead of one, so I need twice > as much disk space (2x 700 MB), too. Yes, although all you <i> have to </i> have is 600MB of <i>free space</i> anytime you resume either model AFAIK. > If the above is right, I have more questions: > a) If I run CPDN only, will HT actually accelerate the calculation? Nope, both models will run slower but your overall throughput will increase, ie. 2 models in 30 days instead of 1 model in 20 days, those sort of figures. > b) If I run CPDN only, will the WUs still be swapped every 60 minutes > (or whatever time intervall I set under preferences)? What/How will > they be swapped, e.g. switch processors? Nope, they just run all the time - I've found I get a slight increase in performance if I use 'Task manager' to set the affinity of each model to a single CPU but it is a very small increase. > c) Is there a way to temporarily (e.g. 30 minutes) to suspend calculation > for just one of the two? Yes, effectively; Set affinity of both models to a single CPU, ie. rightclick on a process in 'task Managaer' (xxx_um_xxx) and set affinity to the same CPU - this will leave you one CPU completely free - I've just now tested this on one of my dual Xeon machines & it works. Both models will still run but at roughly half speed whilst limited to using a single CPU for both. <a href="http://www.nmvs.dsl.pipex.com/"><img src="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/cpdn/stats.php?userID=6&team=off&trans=off"></a> <a href="http://www.nmvs.dsl.pipex.com/">Distributed Mania</a> |
Send message Joined: 7 Aug 04 Posts: 2183 Credit: 64,822,615 RAC: 5,275 |
As Nick said, yes it will speed the calculation through running two models at once. I've seen, and others have commented, that it appears to be about a 15% increase in throughput from hyperthreading, i.e. my P4 can do two models in ~21.5 days using HT, but with HT turned off, it would take ~25 days to do two models. |
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Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 40 Credit: 4,596,406 RAC: 1,493 |
Thanks a lot for your answers! Once the queue for Seti clasic is empty I am ready to switch from 1 to 2 CPUs. Thanks again! Friedrich |
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