I want the prefences I select to MEAN something. Currently, I have selected preferences such as \"no text panel,\" \"smooth cloud\" and 6 gigs of space on my HD. The text panel is ALWAYS there, and despite the fact current technology prevents burn-in for the most part, it\'s UGLY, and I don\'t want to see it. 2:I keep seeing the Grid clouds, which are also ugly. (yes, I only run BOINC when my system is idle, so the hot keys do not work. Try and hit ctrl-z and the text panel drops away, then the screensaver exits too. when it comes back, so does the text-panel.) 3: looking at the disk usage Climateprediction was using 4.6 gigs, but I got warnings that I needed to give MORE space for usage, so I upped it to 12 (!) gigs to use, and when it did download more, it was only 2.6 gigs! So, basically, I upped it to a rediculous amount for no reason, except some bug in the server, or the program said I needed more. So, I\'d REALLY like to see that fixed.
In addition, on one computer I rarely see my progress as greater than .01 percent, the other, I see maybe .065%, but rarely more. Now, I know this is a freaking MASSIVE project, but it sure would make me feel like I\'m actually contributing if the percentage reflected the work I\'m doing. My comps do the work, upload, then download a new segment or parcel, but it never hit 100% for that task? PULEASE! It finished, so it hit 100, I know this mathmatically, so why don\'t the computations reflect this? Part of the reason I contrubute is the feel-good sensation, but I honestly don\'t feel like I\'m doing anything when I can\'t see any results at all. Which brings up my contribution stats a big whopping *0* for BOTH computers, despite the fact I have completed at least a hundred sets of computations. What the heck is up with that? So, fix the server, give me some credit, or even a nasty-gram saying my comps are sending bad numbers or something. I get NOTHING out of this, good or bad, so far.
One other error. One one computer, is shows there are 162008 registered users helping out, which is cool. On my OTHER computer, it shows 1! That\'s right, 1 registered user, which I assume is me. What, is my laptop all alone in the world, despite being 10 feet from the desktop, sharing the same internet connection, which shows 162007 more users? So, I\'d really like that bug fixed.
Oh, and since I connected to climateprediction, the setiathome project won\'t download new tasks. I have reset, tried to connect, and nothing, maybe go 3 days before I get anything from SAH. If I suspend CP, guess what? both Einstein at home (which has problems, just not as much) and SAH connect and get tasks fine. So, by elimination, CP is blocking things!
And one further thing. One one comp, I signed on for climate PREDICTION, and the other Climate CHANGE. Somewhere in the night, about a week ago, BOTH became CHANGE. Now, if this is normal, and prediction is done till change is through, fine, but it\'d be nice to get an email telling me of the change.

There are SERIOUS buggy issues going on here, and if they are not addressed and fixed soon, I will detach from this inelegant, and seemingly useless project very soon, with BOTH computers!

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I will only answer part of this; You have no credit because your computer keeps errorring out see below......Oh and read the instructions.....

Results for computer
Result ID
click for details Work unit ID
click for details Sent Time reported
or deadline
explain Server state
explain Outcome
explain Client state
explain CPU time (sec) claimed credit granted credit
5065503 5021906 31 Mar 2006 8:00:30 UTC 13 Mar 2007 13:20:30 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- 0.00
5052913 5051142 28 Mar 2006 12:57:36 UTC 30 Mar 2006 14:53:55 UTC Over Client error Computing 14,325.59 0.00 0.00
5044779 5043038 26 Mar 2006 11:55:17 UTC 28 Mar 2006 12:57:36 UTC Over Client error Done 5,463.31 0.00 0.00
5024649 5022973 19 Mar 2006 9:40:04 UTC 23 Mar 2006 3:33:49 UTC Over Client error Computing 61,020.31 0.00 0.00
5017643 5015997 17 Mar 2006 0:30:47 UTC 18 Mar 2006 4:02:14 UTC Over Client error Computing 5,029.03 0.00 0.00
1924659 1118846 10 Mar 2006 0:04:46 UTC 16 Mar 2006 16:34:31 UTC Over Client error Computing 13,408.16 0.00 0.00
1921497 1220520 9 Mar 2006 8:48:51 UTC 9 Mar 2006 16:02:06 UTC Over Client error Computing 713.02 0.00 0.00
1908353 1190106 5 Mar 2006 20:21:30 UTC 6 Mar 2006 20:51:24 UTC Over Client error Done 2,070.06 0.00 0.00
1874040 1238650 25 Feb 2006 17:37:01 UTC 5 Mar 2006 20:21:30 UTC Over Client error Computing 22,443.63 0.00 0.00
1868914 1233675 24 Feb 2006 8:13:44 UTC 25 Feb 2006 17:37:01 UTC Over Client error Computing 1,732.69 0.00 0.00
1846575 1211781 19 Feb 2006 14:12:59 UTC 23 Feb 2006 5:24:21 UTC Over Client error Computing 15,291.97 0.00 0.00
1833357 1199203 16 Feb 2006 14:23:21 UTC 19 Feb 2006 14:12:50 UTC Over Client error Computing 12,100.64 0.00 0.00
1804795 1170982 9 Feb 2006 21:14:44 UTC 16 Feb 2006 5:55:13 UTC Over Client error Computing 10,551.05 0.00 0.00
1793058 1159385 7 Feb 2006 16:05:28 UTC 9 Feb 2006 21:14:44 UTC Over Client error Computing 4,695.92 0.00 0.00
1796989 1163265 4 Feb 2006 22:06:46 UTC 7 Feb 2006 15:37:35 UTC Over Client error Computing 12,587.53 0.00 0.00
1762184 1119492 28 Jan 2006 19:19:02 UTC 2 Feb 2006 7:09:37 UTC Over Client error Computing 15,682.69 0.00 0.00
1757620 1113772 27 Jan 2006 13:56:08 UTC 28 Jan 2006 19:19:02 UTC Over Client error Computing 4,177.56 0.00 0.00
1745276 1142855 24 Jan 2006 23:08:03 UTC 27 Jan 2006 13:56:08 UTC Over Client error Computing 17,656.70 0.00 0.00

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BOINC Wiki

There are SERIOUS buggy issues going on here

Quite true, but not of the class you suspect. Your machine proliferates -107... errors (and I see but ONE machine registered to your account). See here:
http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=4231

By the way, please note the credit lines under my ID and Jim K\'s ID: The client does work.


[Edited typo.]

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"We have met the enemy and he is us." -- Pogo
Greetings from coastal Washington state, the scenic US Pacific Northwest.

Okay, I\'ll try again. I\'ll set it so the prog stays in memory, and maybe that\'ll stop it from failing out. I am getting tired of reading and rereading and still nothing works like it\'s supposed to. I followed all the instructions more than once, I don\'t see anything changing. First this project took me over, then it blocked all the others. And the fact you only see ONE computer is yet another bug, I have TWO running this, but I think I can figure it out. The Desktop was signed up for climate CHANGE, and the laptop climate PREDICTION, and though both are running CHANGE models, I guess the signups are the problem. I DO have credit for the desktop, but then it runs a lot longer without me interupting it anyway, so the deleting from memory error wasn\'t as much of an issue. I\'ve set BOTH sets of preferences to allow the prog to stay in memory when exited, hope that helps.
Still doesn\'t change the fact that the text panel will NOT go away even though I have that selected in prefs, and the other errors that drive me crazy. (Although, to be fair, for the desktop, the prefs page for CHANGE doesn\'t have an option for smooth OR grids. It\'s just \"cloud\" \"temp\" or \"pressure\")

I\'ll give it another go at it. *sigh* this is getting maddening though. Shouldn\'t my two comps be linked, because they are running the same models, though I signed up for different aspects initially? I Know Seti on both shows both computers on the \"my computers\" listing, why can\'t this one figure it out?



[quote]I will only answer part of this; You have no credit because your computer keeps errorring out see below......Oh and read the instructions.....

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The BBC change experiment is a seperate project from CPDN, even though they are run by the same people and do similar (or the same) tasks. I would recommend setting the BBC change experiment for no new work and when the current model is finished detach from it and only attach to the main CPDN project. That should mean your desktop would be changed and your laptop would stay as it is. The reason I recommend this project over the BBC project is that this one has a longer projected lifespan and does more than one type of model. Also contrary to the problems you are having, the main CPDN project is generally better at sharing your computer than the BBC change project.

I know it can be frustrating when things are not working as expected, but the people helping you are volunteers as well. So you may get better results if you ask for help instead of attacking.

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BOINC WIKI

BOINCing since 2002/12/8

Yeah, I hear you. Thing is, I never DID attach to the BBC project on the laptop. Not ever. It was CPDN all the way. The Desktop was BBC, and I have fewer problems there (though there are issues) BBC just arrived in the middle of the night, so to speak, and started running. So, I don\'t see how there\'s going to be much of a difference. I\'d detach from CDPN, let the current model run, hope it doesn\'t error out this time, then reattach to CDPN. I imagine I\'ll get one unit from that, then BBC would again take over. Yes, I know it\'s got a shorter lifespan, but that\'s the point isn\'t it? It is designed to be one that has a finish.
Again, the desktop is the only one formally attached to BBC, and it has fewer problems. And the BBC project isn\'t as seperate as you might think, if it just takes over. As it does have a terminal date, I understand how it might need to be viral, but I\'m just saying, if it IS going to be that way, the stats for my participation should be switched over to that project, for the duration, and not here on CPDN, don\'t you think? AUTOMATICALLY. It\'s not my choice to have been taken over, I don\'t see why I should do all the work to switch it. (Oh, and by the way, the BBC preferences page is FAR less configurable. That is, the selections are more limited. They work the same, ultimately. That is, in a limited way.)

Oh, and I did attack, I admit, but that does not change the fact that there are still issues that need to be fixed, no matter how I brought it up. Preferences need to update and work, work units in smaller chunks to not trip the earliest deadline thing, and perhaps a notice somewhere in the setup instructions that you really DO need to keep the unit in memory when it exits to prevent failure. (As it is, on that page it says keeping it in memory uses up swap space, so, of course, I initially set it to remove it.)

The BBC change experiment is a seperate project from CPDN, even though they are run by the same people and do similar (or the same) tasks. I would recommend setting the BBC change experiment for no new work and when the current model is finished detach from it and only attach to the main CPDN project. That should mean your desktop would be changed and your laptop would stay as it is. The reason I recommend this project over the BBC project is that this one has a longer projected lifespan and does more than one type of model. Also contrary to the problems you are having, the main CPDN project is generally better at sharing your computer than the BBC change project.

I know it can be frustrating when things are not working as expected, but the people helping you are volunteers as well. So you may get better results if you ask for help instead of attacking.

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Jindai

One thought on your \'BBC suddenly appearing\' problem.
The Coupled Ocean model was first released as the model used in the \'BBC Project\', at short notice, instead of here as had been originally planned.
Then, a few weeks later, after the initial surge of new users screaming for help had died down, and the Oxford people could think about other things again, the Coupled Ocean model was finally released here as well.

BUT it was released with the BBC logo and messages etc still intact, cauing a lot of people to ask what was going on. Carl posted elsewhere that they wanted to get it out and running asap, and they didn\'t want to risk new problems caused by a hurried change to the code to remove the BBC stuff.
So it will be there for a while until the model can be calmly altered.

In the meantime, Carl has been busy trying to deal with overflowing file servers, caused by the flood of new users / new data. The BBC has provided money for a new trickle server, which is on it\'s way and should be here soon.