It worked fine before, why are they messing about?

Because they need back end systems to create WUs in the first place and validate and post process the WUs on return, all of which is project related and not part of Boinc.

But they already had this and will be using the same scientific programs as before, they're not going to change all that. And why on earth didn't they get this one up and running before they stopped using the other one?! Imagine if Google shut down for 3 months while they moved house.

Evidently they have been changing all that, probably to make it easier to launch new projects in the future.

will be using the same scientific programs as before, they're not going to change all that.

Evidently they have been changing all that, probably to make it easier to launch new projects in the future.

Wouldn't it have been more sensible not to change everything at once? The scientists have been getting zero results for months now.

The update from June 3rd doesn't give much hope either... https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/news/0603

At the moment, our top priority is fixing bugs on the production website, currently operational in our private cloud environment. Issues we must resolve before providing access to the website mainly involve security checks, updates to our backend database, certificates, performance monitoring and many smaller technical issues.

"Basic functionality isn't working and we don't have performance monitoring," close to a month and a half after they were expecting to be back online. on a two month outage window. Oh well. At least it's cooling season, not heating season!

"Basic functionality isn't working and we don't have performance monitoring," close to a month and a half after they were expecting to be back online. on a two month outage window. Oh well. At least it's cooling season, not heating season!

I think I know what the problem is, they have OCD. Any other project would start it up and let some of us get some work and fine tune it as they went along. But oh no, everything has to be bloody perfect for these clowns.

I see they've increased their staff - not another tech guy, no that would be far too logical, let's get someone to do silly videos on youtube and mess around with instagram, which I thought was for losers to post their selfies on.

If the re-jigging of things to the way they want it would result in the old system having to be taken down anyway, why delay it further by putting the old system back in? They probably can not afford the hardware to have a complete duplicate to run the old system till the new one is ready.

Anyway, whatever any of us say here is not going to affect the outcome so I suggest further musings on this belong more appropriately in the Cafe section of the forums than number crunching.

If the re-jigging of things to the way they want it would result in the old system having to be taken down anyway, why delay it further by putting the old system back in? They probably can not afford the hardware to have a complete duplicate to run the old system till the new one is ready.

The system at IBM should still be running until this was tested in parallel and it was just a matter of data transfer overnight. If I had done something similar to this at either of my workplaces, I would have been fired.

Anyway, whatever any of us say here is not going to affect the outcome so I suggest further musings on this belong more appropriately in the Cafe section of the forums than number crunching.

I'm sure you have a button to move the thread, the whole thing is about WCG.

Another week+, another "Still down for maintenance." Last update was from June 3rd.

Bets on if it ever comes back, at this point? Clearly, they're in over their head with the move.

Another week+, another "Still down for maintenance." Last update was from June 3rd.

Bets on if it ever comes back, at this point? Clearly, they're in over their head with the move.

I am betting it will come back. A lot of money has gone into the transition for it to just fold.

It's supposed to fold, that's the nature of the computations.

The question is, has everyone given up on them, or is everyone getting itchy to crunch again? I for one will ignore their incompetance and run all my kit on it for a while, especially while they have GPU stuff to do. I have 13 cards I'd love to see on there, they're currently mostly on Folding@Home, which just isn't as easy to use as Boinc.

The website and forums are back up at WCG.

BOINC on the servers has not been restarted yet, but should be "soon". So no tasks to download at this time. We'll see what "soon" means. A few days? Longer?

The website and forums are back up at WCG.

BOINC on the servers has not been restarted yet, but should be "soon". So no tasks to download at this time. We'll see what "soon" means. A few days? Longer?

I bet you 50 million pounds it's more than a year.

Came to post that. They're... oddly excited about having accomplished everything but the thing that people want them to accomplish.

Is the migration being done by a few bored college students in their evenings off or something? That they're struggling this much with just moving the service doesn't give me very high hopes for their ability to deal with the sort of bizarre things that happen running high volume production services.

My queues are still filled with CPDN work, so doesn't bother me for now, though.

Indeed, they don't even know how incompetant they are, given the multiple deadlines they gave and failed to meet.

Krembil is a multi billion dollar company, surely they can buy in somebody knowledgeable?

am perplexed that with 2163 unsent HadCM3 shorts, they would make them Mac only

They did that because they (almost) all crashed on Linux machines. One of them worked just fine on mine, but the rest on my machine crashed with a segmentation violation, indicating something very wrong with the program. But they did not crash on Macs.

Of those that crashed on Linux machines, about half of them suffered from missing 32-bit compatibility libraries. And older Mac machines are 32-bit so the do not have that problem. Newer Macs are all 64-bit, so those HadCm3s programs will not run on those either.

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Still writing 32 bit code?!

Still writing 32 bit code?!

As has been said on these fora (I know it isn't the correct plural but it should be.) before, the models are using Met office code under license. I am sure if you asked them nicely they would rewrite over a million lines of Fortran for you.

Still writing 32 bit code?!

As has been said on these fora (I know it isn't the correct plural but it should be.) before, the models are using Met office code under license. I am sure if you asked them nicely they would rewrite over a million lines of Fortran for you.

I think everything should have an s for plural, for consistency.

Remind me when 64 bit was invented?

Remind me when 64 bit was invented?

2002 as far as home computing goes. The Fortran routines were mostly written last Century.

The 90s, for workstations.

The MIPS R4k used in SGIs was 64-bit in 1991.

And I still run 32-bit OSes on some of my machines, because it's denser data structures, and on cache limited ARM boxes, that matters.

The Fortran routines were mostly written last Century.

Excrement with gaps.