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ChelseaOilman

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Message 70154 - Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 16:01:16 UTC

I'm pretty sure this page https://www.cpdn.org/top_users.php isn't being updated properly. If it is, how do I get an RAC of 4 million?
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Message 70155 - Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 16:32:02 UTC - in response to Message 70154.  
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I'm pretty sure this page https://www.cpdn.org/top_users.php isn't being updated properly. If it is, how do I get an RAC of 4 million?
The users computers are all hidden but some of the other top users by RAC don't seem to have had any of their boxes connect tot he server in months which does make me think the page has not been updated recently. If you can be bothered you could check whether the figures change for the top users over a few days. I do see that my own RAC and Total credit which don't get me into the top 200 by total credit by all that much and a lot lower by RAC are correct. My guess is that whether updated recently or not the top user by RAC at least used to have a lot of computers crunching. Possibly all the ones at their workplace which may run into hundreds. Certainly not possible for a domestic user who has to pay the electric bill!
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Message 70156 - Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 16:44:23 UTC - in response to Message 70155.  

The stats for any given computer or user are only updated when a 'credit event' happens - basically, whenever a computer on the account reports a trickle or a completed task. If a computer doesn't contact the server, their last known readings are preserved for ever. You're probably seeing left-over figures from the massive OpenIFS run last Christmas.

That's why you can sometimes see active RAC figures on projects which have closed down and stopped sending new work, like SETI@home
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Message 70157 - Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 16:53:13 UTC

Top participants
Rank	Name	Recent average credit	Total credit	Country	Participant since
1	parsnip soup in a clay bowl	4,082,186	47,567,102	None	23 Dec 2022, 19:04:35 UTC
2	biodoc	3,911,498	46,138,262	United States	2 Oct 2019, 19:57:16 UTC
3	xii5ku	3,336,902	78,276,207	None	27 Mar 2021, 16:17:25 UTC
4	leloft	2,600,991	44,434,789	United Kingdom	7 Jun 2017, 8:58:42 UTC
5	Mark	2,271,673	35,399,516	United States	6 Sep 2013, 22:30:12 UTC
6	Profile Landjunge	1,966,142	35,353,184	Germany	17 Aug 2007, 13:48:26 UTC
7	Eirik Redd	1,481,373	219,888,554	United States	31 Aug 2004, 0:55:46 UTC
8	crashtech	1,141,751	23,919,122	International	1 Jun 2017, 21:32:43 UTC
9	Stony666	880,522	10,334,808	Germany	9 Feb 2021, 10:55:03 UTC
10	Dinesh123	830,332	9,439,596	India	2 Sep 2013, 17:34:02 UTC


FREE-DC Stats
#	Projrank	Name	Team	Today	Last Update	Yesterday	2 Days Ago	Ave	Last 7	Last 28	RAC	FDCRAC	Credit	WuProp Hours
1	15	biodoc	TeAm AnandTech	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3,911,498	0	46,138,262	
2	7	xii5ku	TeAm AnandTech	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3,336,902	0	78,276,207	
3	16	leloft		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2,600,991	0	44,434,789	
4	22	Landjunge	Planet 3DNow!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1,966,142	0	35,353,184	
5	2	Eirik Redd	Carleton College	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1,481,373	0	219,888,554	
6	48	crashtech	TeAm AnandTech	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1,141,751	0	23,919,122	
7	147	Stony666	Planet 3DNow!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	880,522	0	10,334,808	
8	172	FritzB	Planet 3DNow!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	716,521	0	9,265,011	
9	76	NOSNHOP	XtremeSystems	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	705,122	0	16,187,112	
10	6	WB8ILI		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	655,606	0	81,380,346	


The FREE-DC stats page shows the high RAC for some of those top users on your page but they aren't doing any tasks and their real RAC is zero.
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Message 70158 - Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 16:56:19 UTC - in response to Message 70156.  
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The stats for any given computer or user are only updated when a 'credit event' happens - basically, whenever a computer on the account reports a trickle or a completed task. If a computer doesn't contact the server, their last known readings are preserved for ever. You're probably seeing left-over figures from the massive OpenIFS run last Christmas.

That's why you can sometimes see active RAC figures on projects which have closed down and stopped sending new work, like SETI@home

Well, this is the 1st and only active project that acts that way. Like lots of things with this project they don't seem to work as expected.
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Message 70159 - Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 17:12:36 UTC

An alternative view of the same data is at https://www.boincstats.com/stats/2/user/list/16/0/0
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Message 70340 - Posted: 9 Feb 2024, 9:11:16 UTC - in response to Message 70159.  

External sites like boincstats etc rely on users allowing their data to be exported (this setting is under 'cpdnboinc preferences'). As 'Parsnip Soup' has their computers hidden, it's possible their data isn't being exported.

Next time I'm logged onto the system I'll check that page is being updated but I suspect it probably is.
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Message 70342 - Posted: 9 Feb 2024, 9:42:47 UTC - in response to Message 70340.  

Looking at a few more of the names on the 'top participants' page, the are plenty whose computers aren't hidden. You can usually work out why the figures haven't changed: some only run CPDN on Linux, others have multiple computers registered but they haven't contacted the servers for a long time.

My own figures (buried several pages down the list!) seem to be fully up-to-date.
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Message 70343 - Posted: 9 Feb 2024, 10:03:29 UTC - in response to Message 70342.  

I'm still planning on implementing badges once I get all the model development issues out of the way, so I will be looking at the database for user credit & RAC (at some point this year).
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Message 70870 - Posted: 26 Apr 2024, 22:19:02 UTC

One of my posts seems to have disappeared. I wonder why?
I could be wrong but I have a feeling this RAC situation was made worse by a credit glitch not to long ago that gave people way more points than what they should have received. The guy at the top of the list, parsnip soup in a clay bowl, has a few computers but nowhere what would be needed to earn an RAC of 4,082,186. To make matters worse he's a team hopper. Sometimes he's on my team, TeAm AnandTech, other times he's on Team Ukraine.
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