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Message 10545 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 6:16:31 UTC

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Boinc V4.25 Stable Windows Version Released at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php


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Message 10546 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 6:25:57 UTC

Does anybody have any experience about installing 4.25 over 4.19? Any success stories? Does 4.19 have to be uninstalled first? Are WUs lost?
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Message 10548 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 6:57:17 UTC

Unless they have forgotten to alter the dates, the Berkeley site says that V4.25
is both stable AND developement.

Best to wait for CPDN admin to approve the release for us. Real Soon Now, I hope!

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Message 10549 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 6:57:19 UTC

With all due respect to the prior posters: "Well, here we go again"! ;-)

I get the feeling these will become perennial questions!!!

And sorry, Peter, but unfortunately I can't answer your questions. I tend to wait several weeks, or more, before an upgrade, 'cuz I'm too chicken to muck up my little farm, until I see a new build has some compelling reason to upgrade, and has proven itself robust.

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Message 10551 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 7:00:28 UTC - in response to Message 10546.  
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> Does anybody have any experience about installing 4.25 over 4.19? Any success
> stories? Does 4.19 have to be uninstalled first? Are WUs lost?
>Installing 4.25 over 4.1x is OK. Make backup of boinc folder (example c:\program files\boinc) and install a new version to same folder. You dont must uninstall 4.19. Computation will be continued.
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Message 10553 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 7:08:39 UTC

Hi Stratcat
Just snuck mine in by 2 seconds! I really MUST learn to think/type/spell faster. :)

The latest version may be mandatary because of the signed nature of parameter set files now.

One can only hope that the admin people, (at least those who haven't migrated to New Zealand, strange that,
wonder what they know?), will post notes for us all. Hint, Hint.

As for me, my last model using hadsm4.04 should finish next Sunday/Monday, so I'll have a few days to watch
for complaints from others.


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Message 10555 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 7:33:09 UTC - in response to Message 10548.  

&gt; Unless they have forgotten to alter the dates, the Berkeley site says that
&gt; V4.25
&gt; is both stable AND developement.

Boinc CC V4.25 for windows is release, the other versions are still being finialised.


&gt;
&gt; Best to wait for CPDN admin to approve the release for us. Real Soon Now, I
&gt; hope!

CPDN Admins will make the call to make the support for V4.25 manadatory.

I have been running V4.25 on windows and linux since its alpha release.


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Message 10556 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 7:34:01 UTC - in response to Message 10551.  
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&gt; &gt; Does anybody have any experience about installing 4.25 over 4.19? Any
&gt; success
&gt; &gt; stories? Does 4.19 have to be uninstalled first? Are WUs lost?
&gt; &gt;Installing 4.25 over 4.1x is OK. Make backup of boinc folder (example
&gt; c:program filesboinc) and install a new version to same folder. You dont must
&gt; uninstall 4.19. Computation will be continued.

Best to unisntall the V4.19 and install v4.25, no work will be lost


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Message 10557 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 7:40:40 UTC - in response to Message 10553.  
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&gt; Hi Stratcat
&gt; Just snuck mine in by 2 seconds! I really MUST learn to think/type/spell
&gt; faster. :)
&gt;
&gt; The latest version may be mandatary because of the signed nature of parameter
&gt; set files now.
&gt;
&gt; One can only hope that the admin people, (at least those who haven't migrated
&gt; to New Zealand, strange that,
&gt; wonder what they know?), will post notes for us all. Hint, Hint.
&gt;
&gt; As for me, my last model using hadsm4.04 should finish next Sunday/Monday, so
&gt; I'll have a few days to watch
&gt; for complaints from others.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Les
&gt;

Hi Les -

So I take it the new BOINC core client (4.25) also includes a change in the CPDN client???

Also, has there really been some proj peeps in NZ, or are you just joking around???

It's 2:00A here in Chicago, so I'm half asleep (guess you could say I'm 'Casey Jones' at the keyboard!) ;-)

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Message 10558 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 7:47:27 UTC

http://www.ssl.berkeley.edu/pipermail/boinc_projects/2005-March/000831.html

I'm pleased to announce the 4.25 release of the BOINC client for Windows.



The highlights for this release are:

1. A MSI based installer, for large scale deployments.
2. A new task based GUI which utilizes the wxWidget cross platform
framework, so we could use the same GUI code for the rest of the platforms.
3. Installation options for running in the shared and service execution
modes.
4. A more comprehensive set of GUI RPC's for management of the daemon.
5. Abilities to suspend/resume projects.
6. Abilities to suspend/resume results, even ones which haven't started
executing yet.
7. Abilities to abort results.
8. Abilities to abort transfers.
9. Abilities to add URLs to the GUI Interface on a project specific
basis.
10. Supports multiple messages returned from the scheduler.



We would like to thank the Alpha testers and the various community members
who reported bugs and helped us smooth out the rough edges.



We are still cooking the Linux, Solaris, and Mac versions which should be
showing up in the next week or so.



----- Rom

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Space Sciences Laboratory

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Message 10559 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 8:13:15 UTC

Ooops..sorry Peter -

Ertugrul was asking the 4.25 related questions, &amp; my reply was directed towards him, in my earlier post, not you, as I erroneously posted. :-0

Thx for the detailed info, though.

Time to get some sleep...

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Message 10562 - Posted: 8 Mar 2005, 10:15:35 UTC
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&gt; So I take it the new BOINC core client (4.25) also includes a change in the CPDN client???
There are 2 new versions of hadsm: 4.10 for Windows, and 4.11 for Linux.
See this <a href="http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=2086"> thread.</a>
I got 4.10 last Sunday with a new parameter set, and have had 5 trickles so far, all successful.

Going OT
&gt; Also, has there really been some proj peeps in NZ, or are you just joking around???

Mostly joking. In two other threads somewhere, Dave Frame has been on leave there
for a few weeks,
and Hannah has been there a week or so. Which leaves Sylvia and Tolu, if you don't count the scientists.

Nice place though. Apparently it's a lot like England.
Parts of the North Island reminded me of the north coast of NSW, and then we'd go past a signpost with
a strange name, and I'd 'get brought back to reality' as it were.
On the South Island, we went past lots of tall steep hills, with their sides covered with rock slides. The rocks were smallish, and the impression I got was that someone had pulled a plug out of the hill, and the rocks had poured out.

Tasmania is also supposedly like England. I was there a few years after the NZ trip, and liked it a lot too.

On the plane down there, we travelled up through brown smog over Sydney, and down through dark grey smog
over Melbourne. But when we reach the northern part of Tasmania, there was just blue sky and clean air.
And the water was clear, clean, and blue as well.

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Message 10608 - Posted: 9 Mar 2005, 16:41:58 UTC

Installed bonic 4.25 over 4.19 about 40 min ago and all is working fine so far. Just a note, I did not have any wu in cache or in progress when doing this.
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Message 10611 - Posted: 9 Mar 2005, 18:30:02 UTC - in response to Message 10608.  

&gt; Installed bonic 4.25 over 4.19 about 40 min ago and all is working fine so far. Just a note, I did not have any wu in cache or in progress when doing this.

Does it mean that BOINC 4.25 downloaded hadsm 4.10 and model WU with no single glitch?
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Message 10617 - Posted: 9 Mar 2005, 21:13:29 UTC

Wonderful news. BOINC V4.62 is in Beta, so there'll soon be an upgrade!

See post from <a href="http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=2141"> Browny_NL</a>

My last 'old' model finishes just after midnight Sunday/Monday, so then I'll get the chance to try BOINC 4.25,
which is still not 'offical' here, but is already on it's way to being obsolete.

New versions are coming faster than MS stuff. Sigh.

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Message 10618 - Posted: 9 Mar 2005, 21:29:26 UTC - in response to Message 10617.  

&gt; Wonderful news. BOINC V4.62 is in Beta, so there'll soon be an upgrade!
&gt;
But they looped back from 4.66 to 4.20 so 4.62 is older than 4.25 and 4.25 is the public release of the 4.6x beta series
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Message 10619 - Posted: 9 Mar 2005, 21:43:45 UTC - in response to Message 10546.  

&gt; Does anybody have any experience about installing 4.25 over 4.19? Any success
&gt; stories? Does 4.19 have to be uninstalled first? Are WUs lost?
&gt;

8 Mar 2005
Upgraded BOINC 4.19 to 4.25 under Windows XP as follows:
Exited BOINC 4.19
Backed-up BOINC folder
Installed 4.25 - message warned that 4.19 should be uninstalled first
Uninstalled 4.19
Installed 4.25
Restarted BOINC
Everything looks OK - no lost WUs - trickling OK
But...when screensaver kicks in - screen goes blank
so - disabled screensaver
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Message 10627 - Posted: 9 Mar 2005, 23:50:46 UTC - in response to Message 10618.  

&gt; 4.62 is older than 4.25 and 4.25 is the public release of the 4.6x beta series

As I understand it, version numbers 4.5x and above are reserved for development versions only. So the next upgrade will also begin life up there before appearing as ?4.30, but I'm not clear whether the development thread will begin again with 4.50 or at 4.67. Either way, we will all be confused again.
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Message 10635 - Posted: 10 Mar 2005, 10:22:32 UTC - in response to Message 10617.  
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<i>Les Bayliss Posted on 9 Mar 2005 21:13:29 UTC:</i>

&gt; See post from <a href="http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=2141">Browny_NL</a>

+++

<i>Note added by Stratcat:</i>

The link supplied above describes a sucessful 4.19 ---&gt; 4.25 uninstall/upgrade while transparently overlaying 4.19 model(s) in mid-run state.

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<i>Begin reply by Stratcat</i>

Well, after reading this thread I feel a little better concerning the upgrade. Up 'till now I wasn't sure if a mid-run model folder needed to be Copied/Saved/Replaced. Apparently it doesn't require replacement, if all goes as expected.

This was somewhat of an issue for me, since I've got 6 Hyperthreaded P4's running a total of 12 models. This means I never have a machine that's not somewhere in mid-run, due to 2 concurrent runs per cpu. Now I feel somewhat relieved that there shouldn't be any additional probs involved by having to manually replace models in mid-run status.

Nice find.

Thx, Les.

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Message 10649 - Posted: 10 Mar 2005, 17:50:49 UTC
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I updated with no problem having just started a new run.
The problem I have is with visualization. See <a href="http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=2141"> this thread</a>.


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