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Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
The problem is at Bern University in Switzerland. And apparently BOINC will abort the upload attempts after 14 days. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
I just upload 2 trickles, and Bern still isn't working. It looks like we're going to lose a lot of models soon. |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1283 Credit: 15,824,334 RAC: 0 |
I've just posted <a href="http://www.climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?p=29490#29490">advice on the phpBB forum</a> on how to ensure you don't lose a result because it hasn't been able to upload for 2 weeks. <br><a href="http://www.teampicard.net/"><img src="http://www.teampicard.net/images/picardmini.gif"></a><a href="http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/team_display.php?teamid=3">Join us here</a> |
Send message Joined: 28 Aug 04 Posts: 42 Credit: 1,443,857 RAC: 0 |
> I've just posted <a> href="http://www.climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?p=29490#29490">advice > on the phpBB forum</a> on how to ensure you don't lose a result because it > hasn't been able to upload for 2 weeks. > <br><a href="http://www.teampicard.net/"><img> src="http://www.teampicard.net/images/picardmini.gif"></a><a> href="http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/team_display.php?teamid=3">Join > us here</a> > Any ETA for when things might be back to normal? Just finished a WU today. Sulphur downloaded fine and is running just fine. I'd not paid much attention, but it seems the upload problem has been going on for a couple weeks. Now I have a set of results that cant be sent back. (I'm in the US and it seems that I'm trying to hit a server in the UK) CPDN really needs to get everyone posting in one forum (IMHO). I don't care if it's the boinc stuff, or phpbb, but it seems info seems to not make it to both forums, unless someone posts a cross link... |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
No news yet. The problem is with the upload server at Bern Uni in Switzerland. They're not far from the river Aare, which is badly flooded. (Or should that be: flooded badly?) These boards are hosted at Oxford Uni, and the php forum is hosted at The Open University, Milton Keynes. When the servers at one are down, the other becomes a backup. This will happen this weekend with OU down for maintenance, as per the news on the front page. Which is on the OU server. edit: Carl's looking into now. |
Send message Joined: 3 Mar 05 Posts: 76 Credit: 127,896 RAC: 0 |
Well BOINC just gave up on trying to upload my results for a model. "Giving up on upload....too much elapsed time" is what is said. Is that it? Is it lost? All that processing down the tubes? <img src="http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-1091.jpg"> |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
If you don't have a backup from before the message, yes. You've lost it. But you will get the full credits and, on the next contact, "Over Success Done". (Been there, had that happen, couldn't find a T-shirt!). |
Send message Joined: 3 Sep 04 Posts: 9 Credit: 2,200,399 RAC: 0 |
So has anyone heard anything about when Bern will be coming back online? I did the action suggested by Thyme to reset the upload duration but I would like to clear my transfer queue soon... |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
No word yet. |
Send message Joined: 3 Mar 05 Posts: 76 Credit: 127,896 RAC: 0 |
I have to say I'm not too happy my model went down the tubes here. Sure I get credits but there is no model result as far as I can see and that's why I ran it for week after week. I was out of the country and could not follow the advice from Thyme Lawn. Given that 14 days trying to upload by BOINC is, evidently, not a sufficiently long enough period can this be changed to avoid it happening again? Is this project configurable or is it BOINC wide? Disappointed! <img src="http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-1091.jpg"> |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
The 14 days is BOINC. Probably because it was never considered that a server would be down for so long. If you have a backup, save the zips and client_state.xml I suspect that a lot of people are going to be in the same boat, and it's possible that some arrangement can be made, similar to the manual upload in Classic cp. |
Send message Joined: 28 Aug 04 Posts: 29 Credit: 1,061,281 RAC: 8,788 |
I wonder why CPDN can't set up a server to redirect the uploads to another mirror... <img src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/banner.php?cpid=681829e632b5dad8ee759cf8f48a5fbe"> |
Send message Joined: 17 Aug 04 Posts: 753 Credit: 9,804,700 RAC: 0 |
> I wonder why CPDN can't set up a server to redirect the uploads to another mirror...> Don't forget that the Bern server is owned by that university. So the CPDN team would need permission, and the good people at Bern have had other things to think about recently. |
Send message Joined: 3 Mar 05 Posts: 76 Credit: 127,896 RAC: 0 |
I have one criticism of BOINC in an architectural sense. That is that it does not appear to be able to have clients connect and get/return work from/to multiple hosts such that those hosts can be in different locations. I would strongly recommend this for future consideration. I see the additional complexity but I do think a distributed computing system should distribute more than just the client processing. <img src="http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-1091.jpg"> |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 390 Credit: 2,475,242 RAC: 0 |
A water from Bern server must be out since I have uploaded two models recently... |
Send message Joined: 3 Mar 05 Posts: 76 Credit: 127,896 RAC: 0 |
> A water from Bern server must be out since I have uploaded two models > recently... > Were they uploaded since 4th Sept? <img src="http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-1091.jpg"> |
Send message Joined: 3 Sep 04 Posts: 9 Credit: 2,200,399 RAC: 0 |
According to http://www.climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=3152&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45 the server is working but I still cannot upload. Anyone have any success using phkup21.unibe.ch? |
Send message Joined: 3 Sep 04 Posts: 9 Credit: 2,200,399 RAC: 0 |
According to http://www.climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=3152&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45 the server is working but I still cannot upload. Anyone have any success using phkup21.unibe.ch? |
Send message Joined: 7 Aug 04 Posts: 2187 Credit: 64,822,615 RAC: 5,275 |
> According to > http://www.climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=3152&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45 > the server is working but I still cannot upload. Anyone have any success > using phkup21.unibe.ch? Yes. Mine uploaded fine. Are you still getting the exact same error messages in the last few hours about "temporarily failed upload"? |
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