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Message 15750 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 20:14:36 UTC
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I am running it on an amd xp 2800+ with windows xp client 4.45 and the model keeps erroring then I have to shut down the client and restart boinc to get it working Ive done this about 4 times now including rebooting w
well now its been sent back as client error, and now Im getting a diffrent model hopfully this doesnt keep happening.
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Message 15755 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 21:19:42 UTC - in response to Message 15750.  

> I am running it on an amd xp 2800+ with windows xp client 4.45 and the model
> keeps erroring then I have to shut down the client and restart boinc to get it
> working Ive done this about 4 times now including rebooting w
> well now its been sent back as client error, and now Im getting a diffrent
> model hopfully this doesnt keep happening.

What are the specific error messages when it keeps erroring?

I note that BOINC does not identify your CPU as an XP 2800+. Is it overclocked or running in a motherboard that does not identify it correctly? Just wondering.
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Message 15760 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 22:03:14 UTC - in response to Message 15755.  

> > I am running it on an amd xp 2800+ with windows xp client 4.45 and the
> model
> > keeps erroring then I have to shut down the client and restart boinc to
> get it
> > working Ive done this about 4 times now including rebooting w
> > well now its been sent back as client error, and now Im getting a
> diffrent
> > model hopfully this doesnt keep happening.
>
> What are the specific error messages when it keeps erroring?
>
> I note that BOINC does not identify your CPU as an XP 2800+. Is it
> overclocked or running in a motherboard that does not identify it correctly?
> Just wondering.
>
have a slight OC on it
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Message 15777 - Posted: 7 Sep 2005, 14:30:54 UTC

sence the new model is doing the same thing and sence no one seems to have any input on the subject, I will detach and find another endever.
I may return in six months and try then to see if the software works.
it is just too bad because I believe that this is one of the more worthy projects out there.
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Message 15780 - Posted: 7 Sep 2005, 15:48:31 UTC - in response to Message 15777.  

> sence the new model is doing the same thing and sence no one seems to have any
> input on the subject, I will detach and find another endever.
> I may return in six months and try then to see if the software works.
> it is just too bad because I believe that this is one of the more worthy
> projects out there.
>

It may be worth checking your system for stability, lots of information can be found in the BOINC wiki (http://boinc-doc.net/wiki/) and by searching this site, a good general one to try is the GIMPS Prime95 software running the various torture tests.

Also what were the specific error messages you recieved when the models fail? that information would help a lot in diagnosing the problem

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Message 15794 - Posted: 7 Sep 2005, 23:12:50 UTC
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I dont get a boinc error windows tells me x program has encountered a problem and must shutdown. boinc acts like the program is running but no clock ticks ,task manager shows program ether not in memmory or just not useing any resorces. when I shut down boinc and then restart it runs for a short period 1 to 5 min and then windows pops up with x program has encountered a problem.
BTW seti and Einstein run with no prob
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Message 15820 - Posted: 9 Sep 2005, 3:00:06 UTC - in response to Message 15794.  

> I dont get a boinc error windows tells me x program has encountered a problem
> and must shutdown. boinc acts like the program is running but no clock ticks
> ,task manager shows program ether not in memmory or just not useing any
> resorces. when I shut down boinc and then restart it runs for a short period 1
> to 5 min and then windows pops up with x program has encountered a problem.
> BTW seti and Einstein run with no prob
>

do you report the errors to microsoft (if not then try) as you should get a brower window open that displays a page on the oca.microsoft.com server (online crash analysis) giving an indication to why the crash happened

also how did the stability tests go?

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Message 15821 - Posted: 9 Sep 2005, 3:29:19 UTC

The best error messages for cp fault finding are in stdoutdae.txt, in the BOINC folder.

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Message 15822 - Posted: 9 Sep 2005, 3:38:41 UTC

also try stderrdae.txt
but if it's crashing before it's got a chance to write the info to the files then they won't be much help
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Message 16052 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 12:46:05 UTC

I believe I have fixed the problem I excluded the Boinc folder from active virus protection and all seems well. I also stoped BoincView although Im not sure how that would interfere. does anyone else run BoincView 1.02 with climate?
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Message 16055 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 13:16:56 UTC - in response to Message 16052.  
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I believe I have fixed the problem I excluded the Boinc folder from active virus protection and all seems well. I also stoped BoincView although Im not sure how that would interfere. does anyone else run BoincView 1.02 with climate?


I\'ll be honest, i don\'t know what boincview does, but if it\'s just for remote management, then you can do that by installing boinc as a service and then the manager is seperate from the actual cruncher, so you can connect to the boinc service on other PCs
read paul\'s info about setting it up here - http://boinc-doc.net/boinc-wiki/index.php?title=Remote_Hosts_File
and here - http://boinc-doc.net/boinc-wiki/index.php?title=BOINC_Daemon_Password

I\'ve only used the in-built boinc rpc features, but i\'ve never had problems with it, it\'s always worked

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Message 16066 - Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 15:45:54 UTC - in response to Message 16052.  

does anyone else run BoincView 1.02 with climate?

Yes. It runs fine as long as you don\'t rely on its estimates for completion (too long) or credits (too low).

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Message 16198 - Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 21:41:56 UTC

just an update project still running second trickle sent.
my prob must have been the active virus scan every time a file opens or closes.
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Message 16199 - Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 23:03:04 UTC - in response to Message 16198.  

just an update project still running second trickle sent.
my prob must have been the active virus scan every time a file opens or closes.


most probably, i\'ve heard that some \"lock\" the file with exclusive access (so BOINC won\'t have a chance)

although i must admit i\'ve never had a problem with this myself
just for the record, what brand, version/flavour of virus scanner are u using, incase others have this problem

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Message 16241 - Posted: 25 Sep 2005, 14:09:42 UTC - in response to Message 16199.  

just an update project still running second trickle sent.
my prob must have been the active virus scan every time a file opens or closes.


most probably, i\'ve heard that some \"lock\" the file with exclusive access (so BOINC won\'t have a chance)

although i must admit i\'ve never had a problem with this myself
just for the record, what brand, version/flavour of virus scanner are u using, incase others have this problem

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product works great climate just didnt like to wait for it to scan each time it opened the WU
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Message 16242 - Posted: 25 Sep 2005, 15:05:50 UTC - in response to Message 16241.  
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E-Trust AV Ver 7.0.6.7
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product works great climate just didnt like to wait for it to scan each time it opened the WU


It\'s probably a good thing that it has a low tollerance for file errors, considering it has so many dependancies and if something if even slightly wrong, it could alter the outcome of the model

but glad to hear your back in business :)

Happy crunching

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