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Message 20197 - Posted: 14 Feb 2006, 16:35:16 UTC

so this is now a bbc project (news 24 1630 today) i want nothing to do with a bbc project . wish they\'d stick to broadcasting instead of trying to run the whole UK.

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Message 20199 - Posted: 14 Feb 2006, 17:06:45 UTC

It\'s still an Oxford Uni project.
The BBC is just running a \'farm\' of computers from a few thousand users.
And only for 8 months.
The same coupled ocean model, experiment 2, will soon start on this site, now that the BBC project is out of the way.

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Message 20217 - Posted: 14 Feb 2006, 20:13:11 UTC - in response to Message 20199.  

It\'s still an Oxford Uni project.
The BBC is just running a \'farm\' of computers from a few thousand users.
And only for 8 months.
The same coupled ocean model, experiment 2, will soon start on this site, now that the BBC project is out of the way.



O, Only for 8 months! My model(s) needs at least 500 days to complete.

Will cpdn take over the farm after bbc stops?
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Message 20218 - Posted: 14 Feb 2006, 20:29:14 UTC

Thst\'s up to the farm hands. :) (Where are all the good smilies when you need one.)
And don\'t forget, the BBC version has no BOINC credits, so you\'re doing it gratis.
But the BBC data gets sent back to Oxford. Until the BBC\'s servers shut down.
It was never meant for regular BOINC users.
Or you could wait a few \"days\" and crunch cpdn\'s full blown version.

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Message 20238 - Posted: 14 Feb 2006, 23:46:59 UTC

Like most media organisations the BBC are prone to exaggeration. On the other hand they are giving it enormous publicity, and we know that what they are actually promoting is BOINC and CPDN even if they do not say so. It will be up to us to persuade these new users to join us properly.
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Message 20264 - Posted: 15 Feb 2006, 10:44:20 UTC - in response to Message 20218.  

And don\'t forget, the BBC version has no BOINC credits, so you\'re doing it gratis.

Not true. Stats are being exported and the third party stats sites are already picking them up ;)
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Message 20268 - Posted: 15 Feb 2006, 10:58:46 UTC

Hmmm
Sylvia said that Carl said: \"No credits.\"
Oh well.

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Message 20281 - Posted: 15 Feb 2006, 15:46:27 UTC

There are signs of credit:
http://bbc.cpdn.org/top_users.php

Did Carl not meant that it does not go towards the (old) cpdn credits!
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Message 20286 - Posted: 15 Feb 2006, 16:33:31 UTC

Yes, it was ment that BBC credit are not going toward main CPDN (unlike SpinUp) but remains as a separate project. Stats site are taking BBC as a separate project as well, so unique stats files.
<i>phpBB forum for CPDN, all are </i><a href="http://www.climateprediction.net/board">invited</a>
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Message 20333 - Posted: 16 Feb 2006, 9:50:18 UTC

All the more reason to get it started here ASAP.
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Message 20706 - Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 4:15:33 UTC

I am running both BBC CCE as well as CPDN.

personaly i like the fact that Boinc and distributed computing got some news coverage.

I do think alot of people that run the BBC\'s CCE will continue to run DC projects now that they are being exposed to them

Yes it is seprate stats and they dont add to your CPDN stats but personaly im not trying to get my stats to #1... or #1000 for that matter so im just happy to crunch.

also over there there are lots of people who are suprised that the US as well as alot of other countries are concerned to run the project.

eithor way the data made from this project will eventualy help scientist figure out better how climate changes effect us and what we need to do to ensure live continues
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Message 20903 - Posted: 1 Mar 2006, 14:31:50 UTC - in response to Message 20333.  
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All the more reason to get it started here ASAP.


Um, verstapp are you the same verstapp that\'s joined BOINC@Australia in µFluids? If you are I\'d be really happy if you meant to join all your projects to the team 8-)

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personaly i like the fact that Boinc and distributed computing got some news coverage

Amen, pity when it\'s replayed in Australia it won’t ask people to specifically join a local team :-(

Speaking of teams 8-)
Les! Er, Mr. Bayliss, did I also invite you to join us? If you like, you can click on the bit in my sig. (Insert cringe smiley here;) But I\'m sure you already know how to do that (Ditto cringe smiley:)





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Message 22332 - Posted: 23 Apr 2006, 17:41:23 UTC - in response to Message 20706.  
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I do think alot of people that run the BBC\'s CCE will continue to run DC projects now that they are being exposed to them

I hope so nasher, but it\'s not so good having to start again with zero credits. I can take it, but some have difficulty with having to start a model from scratch, to go back to 1920, even though retaining credits. You would probably have a far higher success rate if you allowed the credit to be transferred.

I\'m not sure why this should be a problem since it is not \'real\' money (is it?) and the credit \'has\' been earned. The real issue, I would have thought, is to take away any reasons that might stop any BBC CCEs from transferring over.


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Message 22789 - Posted: 17 May 2006, 15:02:32 UTC - in response to Message 22332.  

someday when the BBC/CCE site is going down I imagine we\'ll transfer credits over
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Message 22790 - Posted: 17 May 2006, 17:05:43 UTC - in response to Message 22789.  

someday when the BBC/CCE site is going down I imagine we\'ll transfer credits over


I hope so. I just kind of thought that would happen.




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