Message boards : Number crunching : Missing Tickles
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Send message Joined: 10 Oct 05 Posts: 49 Credit: 74,483 RAC: 0 |
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Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
The servers had a big overhaul, and are now way behind. It may take a day or two to catch up. I\'m just glad that \"seasonal\" is on a different server. :) |
Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 1 Credit: 96,570 RAC: 0 |
How far behind are the servers? I haven\'t had any trickles recorded since 19 April, but my Boinc manager shows plenty of trickle messages being successfully sent. It worked fine in the past for me, and my \"seasonal\" job is still going fine (but from the above that is on a different server). All the best, Curt |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
How far behind are the servers? I, for one, don\'t know. Possibly only Carl does. It has to be remembered that the huge influx of new modelers from the BBC part of it, have over whelmed the servers that have been used for years. A big new trickle server has arrived, and it may prove necessary to seek funds to replace/add to, the other servers as well. Oh, well. If they want more people to get involved, they need more space to store the data. |
Send message Joined: 6 Sep 05 Posts: 50 Credit: 97,106 RAC: 0 |
How far behind are the servers? Thanks for the info Les So any trickles sent over the last few days will gradually be updated to the models/results as the servers catch up on the workload? It just may take another couple of days. Is that right? |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
Yes. |
Send message Joined: 6 Sep 05 Posts: 50 Credit: 97,106 RAC: 0 |
Thank you Les. Your constant hard work is appreciated. |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
OK -- looks like the moving BOINC resource/reliability contraint has been moving around between the various projects. For quite a while, the SETI folks were up against that. They have recently been able to get a lot of donations of funds which seems to have put them in a position to resolve their constraints, then the problem seemed to moved over to Einstein for a short while. They seem to be back and stable these days, but the handoff has been to Climate (which seems to be both Climateprediction and ClimateBBC). Oh well, I\'ve shifted my third project cycles over to World Community Grid for now and simply suspended Climate -- not a big deal. |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
[quote] And the space they need is on the servers -- found out why I was having problems with getting more work on other projects -- The Climateprediction project folder was enormous on my workstations (3G+ in some cases). Detaching resolved that problem. I figure to \'watch the boards\' here to see when I can rejoin. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
The slab models took up about 660Megs on completion, the sulphur about 1Gig, and current TCMs only take about 600Megs while running, and none on completion. So, 3Gigs means that you haven\'t removed the old folders, or that you\'ve pressed the \"record\" key in a TCM, which uses up masses of storage very quickly. I figure to \'watch the boards\' here to see when I can rejoin. What is it that you\'re watching for? |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
Well, I did neither -- removing old folders -- didn\'t know that I needed to manually maintenance. In any event, I\'ve detached on the workstations in my local farm and that seemed to clear up the disk space usage. Regarding \'watch the boards\' -- there seem to have been some issues starting last week, and there were some \'patches\' to things here -- but I suspect until this coming work week, the complete fixes won\'t be quite in place. My assumption (which is just that) is that as the problems which showed up last week didn\'t find their way to a \'bulletin\', that as more active folks check back and discuss matters on the message boards (though with not nearly the \'watching every moment angst\' that happens over in SETI) I\'ll see some report/discussion confirming that things are fully set right. When I see that sort of report, I figure it will both safe (in terms of the disk use issues I encountered) and productive (in terms of work being useful and counted) and then I\'ll rejoin on a batch of workstations. As it is, I\'ve got a total of 5 projects I\'ve connected to, it is just at this point, I\'ve pretty much detached the climate prediction and BBC climate projects where I can. So WorldGrid is now getting those cycles as my number three project -- though a long way behind Climate in terms of accumulated cycles. The slab models took up about 660Megs on completion, the sulphur about 1Gig, and current TCMs only take about 600Megs while running, and none on completion. |
Send message Joined: 10 Oct 05 Posts: 49 Credit: 74,483 RAC: 0 |
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Send message Joined: 6 Sep 05 Posts: 50 Credit: 97,106 RAC: 0 |
I am now three days behind, having just sent up my 80% mark and only have 93 tickles, so how long before everyone is up to date? It could be a while. Give it a week or 10 days. Then we can start jumping up and down :) |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
Right, folks are a bit more restrained in response to things compared to SETI for sure...
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Send message Joined: 6 Sep 05 Posts: 50 Credit: 97,106 RAC: 0 |
Right, folks are a bit more restrained in response to things compared to SETI for sure... It comes from the WU size I think, We don\'t often get 20plus WU\'s at a time lined up to report. Think of the credit if we could.... :) On a side note, I wonder if it is possible to find out it trickle updates are being processed quicker than new trickles are coming in. This is just an idle thought on my part not a request of the project staff. They are busy enough as it is without me bothering them. |
Send message Joined: 10 Oct 05 Posts: 49 Credit: 74,483 RAC: 0 |
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Send message Joined: 30 Aug 04 Posts: 29 Credit: 418,651 RAC: 0 |
Now four trickles behind, sorry about the heading I just misread the info wrong and call them tickles instead of trickles. It\'s nice to see I\'m not alone, I am about four trickles behind too. And I thought calling them tickles was kind of cute.:) <img border=\"0\" src=\"http://boinc.mundayweb.com/one/stats.php?userID=2247\" /> |
Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 53 Credit: 6,325,436 RAC: 0 |
Regarding \'watch the boards\' -- there seem to have been some issues starting last week, and there were some \'patches\' to things here -- but I suspect until this coming work week, the complete fixes won\'t be quite in place. the patches are in references to an error message running the 5.4.X \"beta\" versions of BOINC in no way does it affect performance, its just annoying yes the trickle server will catch up, CPDN has never been in the habit of shorting people on creits |
Send message Joined: 6 Aug 04 Posts: 42 Credit: 3,693,897 RAC: 3,475 |
I\'m behind severly. My RAC was around 1800 when everything was running ok. Now by Friday, I\'ll probably be under 1000. :( |
Send message Joined: 24 Nov 05 Posts: 30 Credit: 893,671 RAC: 0 |
I\'m behind severly. My RAC was around 1800 when everything was running ok. Now by Friday, I\'ll probably be under 1000. :( There are also some trickles missing at my results. Personally I suspend network activity (but not my models of course) and do not let my trickles to be uploaded. I will wait until everything works fine (I\'m convinced it will!), and then let slowly (e.g. after an \'extra day\') trickle my models again. Perhaps this helps to reduce the amount of data the new server has to catch up... - And of course it doesn\'t help at all if I\'m the only one who does this... |
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