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Message 28292 - Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 2:19:26 UTC
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Tomcat, no problem. I just answered in red because a few members in different threads have asked whether they should abort their models. (NO! DON\'T!)

Strathpeffer, we know that you and others are passing the news on into the team forums and giving advice there, which helps a lot.

Richard, I\'m sure Milo and Tolu realise the importance of the 2-week decadal zip file deadline and will do their very best to make sure we don\'t reach it.

I think the danger of repeated failed attempts to upload the zip probably lies in the sort of thing I saw with a decadal zip upload from my BBC model a short time before the server stopped accepting them. The server must have been almost full. The upload started, sent 1% or 2% then stalled. While I stared at the messages wondering what to do, the upload started again and completed. Very lucky for me. But if I had had 98% of a zip file sitting there for two weeks, and repeatedly trying, I imagine that the chance of the file being corrupted would increase with each attempt.

However, if the zip file had been ruined/lost/timed out, my backups meant I had a Plan B ie a restore from before the file was created. As I\'ve been running this model on a slow computer since April 2006, I don\'t want a failed zip file upload or a full disk in Oxford to prevent me from finishing.


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Message 28293 - Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 2:41:30 UTC
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Since, I am one of several \'crunchers\' that do not monitor my systems minute by minute, it would behove the powers that be, \"ADMINISTRATORS\", that there should be a \"HIGH LIGHTED\" note on every page of this project, that the project is having a system problem. A link to the secific problem should be provided. A basic description of the problem and an estimated time frame for the fix should be included. If the time frame of the fix needs to be extended post it with the original note. This would probably require that the BOINC administrators need to get involved.

I, as a \'cruncher\', should not need to go through several differant message boards or posts to figure out that the \"project\" is having a problem. I can understand a day or 2 to figure out if it is a \"project\" problem or an indiviual problem, but once it it determined that it is a \"project\" problem it needs to get wide disemmination. This could be done by a \"spam :<)\" e-mail to all active participants, not that I check my e-mail every day, or as I noted above as note on every page of this project. I say a note on every page because not everybody comes in through the same route. So a note on the \"home\" page will be missed by everybody that comes in through the \"message boards\".

I use CPDN as my \"long term\" project in case my \'short term\' projects have problems with uploads or downloads.
I agree with an earlier post of this thread, that, it would be beneficial for those of us that pay for bandwidth or are on dialup, that a check of the servers ability to accept data, before an upload is commenced, is preferable to reciveing
\"\"\"4/29/2007 6:37:47 PM|climateprediction.net|[error] Error on file upload: can\'t open file /home/boinc/data/hadcm3ohe_0o7a_05679704_0_1.zip: No space left on device\"\"\"
after the upload has completed and has burned up 15-60 minutes or more of ISP time.
I run these programs as \'set and forget\', kind of like the military, \"fire and forget\" missiles. I check once or twice a week to see if if I need to do an upload due to report deadlines, otherwise I do nothing.
I am currently running only 2 systems, eventualy I\'ll get back up to 6 systems at which time this problem would have really impacted my time online.
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Message 28294 - Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 2:48:57 UTC
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Sorry to disagree Roark but putting a message on every page of the project would be a quite impossible task for the moderators! Why don\'t you go to the News and Announcements thread and click on \"subscribe to this thread\"? Then you\'d get an e-mail whenever there was an announcement. ;-)

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Message 28296 - Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 3:08:14 UTC - in response to Message 28294.  

Sorry to disagree Roark but putting a message on every page of the project would be a quite impossible task for the moderators! Why don\'t you go to the News and Announcements thread and click on \"subscribe to this thread\"? Then you\'d get an e-mail whenever there was an announcement. ;-)

You\'re right, the moderators would have an impossible task, I have since modified my post to reflect that the BOINC administrators would need to get involved to allow a \'generic\' post from the \'project administrator\' to down flow to all the project pages. If ISP\'s and Google can do it, then BOINC should be able to do it too.
As I said, I do not monitor any of the message boards of the differant projects that I\'m involved in, unless I have a problem. Well, except, PIRATES ;)
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Message 28307 - Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 12:56:23 UTC

Hi Roark

Problem solved, at least temporarily. See the News thread

http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=5447

We now have a News and Announcements thread on all 3 cpdn forums. We\'re trying to make sure that everything important is copied into all three. So you only need to visit one of the three forums. If your time on the forum is limited, just go straight to the News thread. As Strathpeffer says, it\'s also worth subscribing to that thread.
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Message 28310 - Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 14:19:37 UTC - in response to Message 28296.  
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... that the BOINC administrators would need to get involved to allow a \'generic\' post from the \'project administrator\' to down flow to all the project pages. If ISP\'s and Google can do it, then BOINC should be able to do it too.
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About a year ago I proposed (on the Boinc dev mailing list) a development to download XML project news onto the Boinc manager, but it was denied (apparently standard third-party XML news readers would do the job just as well).

The intention was to let people who don\'t read the project news pages / forums find out about important news. The trouble is, how many of those people would have an XML news reader anyway?

Someone has recently made a very similar proposal, so I have my fingers crossed.

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