This project seems out of reasonable porportion on my PC: P4-2.53 w/1GB-ram std.clock

I have it running shared with WCG, swapping at 2-hour intervals.
I loaded this PC with WCG a about 10 days ago and the Climate Prediction project is only @0.9% with elapsed time of 30 hours with remaining 2945 hrs. (report deadline 4/22/2008 in the advanced view)
This seems pointless as this machine is only on about 6-10 hrs/day and time is split with WCG. Should I continue to run Climate Prediction? and remove WCG? Is there any point to continue to run CP.net?
Is my machiune too anemic to produce meaningfull results? What are trickles? How does the project results get loaded up? So far I\'ve manually gone to Advanced View and clicked Update and that seemed to send some data. It shows Work Done of 259.20, whatever does that MEAN?

I came from the demise of Grid.org, and while there is lot\'s to b*tch about them, they had better FAQ\'s and newbie help online. How does this project even run?
Please help me with meaningful helpful suggestions only. Thanks.

Hi John, welcome to cpdn and the forum.

I\'ve looked at your computer specs (click on your name here on the forum, or on Your results in boinc manager to see this). I certainly wouldn\'t describe your computer as anaemic, though it isn\'t the fastest one around. I started a model over a year ago on a computer only half the speed of yours and it\'s now near completion.

Here are your model\'s parameters (starting conditions - each model\'s unique) and results so far:

http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=6515280

A trickle means data sent from your computer to the server in Oxford. A trickle happens every model year on 5 Dec. If you\'re not connected to the internet or have suspended network activity thro your boinc manager Activity options, the trickle just waits patiently until it can be sent. Your model has trickled once so far. No need to click Update - the trickles will happen automatically and you don\'t need to do anything.

I don\'t think your computer\'s fast enough to run 2 projects every day and swapping. Disabling the cpdn screensaver will speed up the processing of your model a bit, but if you opt to run the climate model I don\'t see how you can run WCG workunits as well. You could let the current WCG workunit continue to completion but set WCG to No new work (the button\'s in the Projects tab of boinc manager). You would then only be running the climate model, but you\'d still be attached to WCG and could return to it at some point in the future.

Don\'t worry about the model\'s deadline because the cpdn server ignores it. Other project servers DON\'T ignore it.

Work done = 259 means total credits you\'ve been awarded for the work/processing your computer\'s done for the project so far . Some people compete with each other, counting credits. I don\'t bother. Credits can\'t be exchanged for cash! They\'re a notional way of thanking us for what we contribute.

There\'s a lot of information about cpdn and the models in the 4 Project READMEs linked to thro my signature. Don\'t try to read everything; start with the README about running the model and notice the top tips there.

If you do decide to continue your climate model, post back with any further queries you have. Hope that helps for starters.

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Hi John, welcome to cpdn and the forum.

I\'ve looked at your computer specs
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Hope that helps for starters.

Thanks! for the rapid and complete response.
I have read a bit of the FAQ links (couldn\'t find \'em on my own limited perusing earlier) and am glad to know I produced one valid trickle. Now, if I understand correctly, to make the work fully meaningful I need to run to completion, all those 29xx hrs remaining.
Also, my guess about having to remove other WCG projects being confirmed, it was about at WU completion, so I have now removed that as well so CP.net will run unimpeded. Thanks for the tip how to gracefully shut that down after reporting.

I often run this machine (it\'s my secondary \'backup\' machine, -not running my data backups-, just there in case I neeed a second PC for some reason) all weekend, but shut it down when I go off to work. So maybe it\'ll reasonably complete a world model process.
This was my first crack at BOINC, my main machine is running WCG via the UD engine, as I\'m very familiar and comfortable with that.
I ran up a fair number of points (3.6 mill) and CPU years (21+) over at Grid.org and was ranked in the #13xx user range. I ran that project from the very beginning right through to the bitter end...
SO, now we\'ll see how this goes.

There is also a \"FAQ\" type FAQ in the blue menu to the left of here.

However, I sometimes have problems with this, as the wrong menu shows in Netscape for the \"posts\" part of this board. (It shows the shorter front page menu.)
In which case it\'s under Taking part in CPDN, near the top.

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There is also a \"FAQ\" type FAQ in the blue menu to the left of here.
...In which case it\'s under Taking part in CPDN, near the top.

Thanks, Les. I appreciate your reply.
I don\'t have a blue menu on left (running MS-IE) but typing FAQ into the search produces 10 pages of forum entries, too many to really be useful.
I did try the \'Taking Part\' link before posting initially, but that essentially brought me here, under the Windows link.

Hi again John

Because climate models take so much longer to complete than workunits from other projects, we all need to take precautions to make it much likelier that our models will reach the end. I\'d recommend looking at these items in the READMEs which can be reached thro my sig:

*In the Running the Model README, the top tips

*In the README about avoiding model crashes, item #5 by Mike which tells us how to avoid the most common problems. Plus item #1 by Les. It\'s an easy method of backing up the contents of the boinc folder. Very important because if a model crashes, the only way to continue crunching it is by restoring a backup. On other projects with short WUs, crunchers don\'t need to bother doing this.

*Alternatively, there\'s a whole README about backups, offering a selection of methods.

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I\'ve just remembered. The \'blue menu\' requires java (java script?), and perhaps won\'t show up in IE.

This is a direct link to the FAQ page.