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Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
By the way -- off topic response here -- looks like the stats updates didn\'t get exported to the external databases again -- perhaps that is a script that needs some fixing. |
Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 2363 Credit: 14,611,758 RAC: 0 |
Yes, I\'m going to post about the lack of credit exports in the News threads. Cpdn news |
Send message Joined: 31 Aug 04 Posts: 42 Credit: 547,031 RAC: 0 |
Yes, I\'m going to post about the lack of credit exports in the News threads. Is related to the graph on the \"Task details\" page not being updated as well? I\'m crunching 2047, and the graph is still showing 2041. http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=7372224 Trickles and credits are ok.. |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1496 Credit: 95,522,203 RAC: 0 |
Yes, it\'s related. The graphs are updated from Trickle data. Trickles are being received by the Server, as indicated in the Messages tag and in \"Your account\" computer contact list. It\'ll all be sorted out eventually. "We have met the enemy and he is us." -- Pogo Greetings from coastal Washington state, the scenic US Pacific Northwest. |
Send message Joined: 27 Jan 07 Posts: 300 Credit: 3,288,263 RAC: 26,370 |
Trickles are being received by the Server, as indicated in the Messages tag and in \"Your account\" computer contact list. It\'ll all be sorted out eventually. I agree with what Mo.V said in the News thread.... There\'s no need for the constant updates about the credit job not running. Why not just put a \"Credit Granted Job last run on: 01-Aug-2008\" on the server status page? It would be both helpful for the users AND the moderators to make sure the job finishes correctly! |
Send message Joined: 1 Jan 07 Posts: 1058 Credit: 36,604,672 RAC: 15,671 |
Why not just put a \"Credit Granted Job last run on: 01-Aug-2008\" on the server status page? It would be both helpful for the users AND the moderators to make sure the job finishes correctly! That\'s a great idea, but it would be even more useful to monitor the several steps independently - currently: Credit Granted Job last ran 06-Aug-2008 Stats Export Job last ran 01-Aug-2008 |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
Yes, I saw the post there -- I\'m sure Milo will get it fixed when he has the time -- not that big a deal -- I know the credits will show up -- and the the trickels are showing up on the Climate site. Yes, I\'m going to post about the lack of credit exports in the News threads. |
Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 2363 Credit: 14,611,758 RAC: 0 |
For members of the Beta2 project it\'s a miracle that the credits earned there ever arrive at the stats sites. Credits have to be given by the Beta server to members\' accounts, then transferred and added to CPDN accounts, then exported to the stats sites. Cpdn news |
Send message Joined: 12 Sep 04 Posts: 34 Credit: 1,017,702 RAC: 0 |
Have the XML updates fallen over again? I seem to recall the new file name requirements being an issue earlier in August. Warped |
Send message Joined: 13 Jan 06 Posts: 1498 Credit: 15,613,038 RAC: 0 |
Yes, there was no credit export over the weekend. Today (Monday) is a holiday in the UK, so it is unlikely to be exported until Tuesday (which means that it\'ll be visible on the external stats sites on Wednesday). I'm a volunteer and my views are my own. News and Announcements and FAQ |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
Ah -- I was wondering about that. I\'ll not whine until Wednesday evening then <smile>.
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Send message Joined: 3 Oct 06 Posts: 12 Credit: 572,668 RAC: 0 |
Ah -- I was wondering about that. I\'ll not whine until Wednesday evening then <smile>. It\'s always nice to see a huge amount of credits suddenly being applied. <smile> |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
It looks like last night, in sympathy for the database not getting exported to the other sites, the trickles didn\'t post locally. I didn\'t see any announcment of that, but sometimes these sorts of reports require user reporters -- sort of like information exchange in the blogosphere. Ah -- I was wondering about that. I\'ll not whine until Wednesday evening then <smile>. |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 08 Posts: 22 Credit: 501,217 RAC: 0 |
Today (Monday) is a holiday in the UK, so it is unlikely to be exported until Tuesday... While I tend to view the whole \"credits\" thing as a necessary evil, though an important incentive to participate in BOINC projects... I\'m curious why credit exports don\'t happen on holidays? Is it a manual operation? I would have expected all that to be automated. Or perhaps the server that usually does it flew to Bermuda to catch some rays over the 3 day weekend? :-0 |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
There has been A Problem. Something suitable will, no doubt, be posted eventually, but in the meantime, please remain seated, and have your seat belts fastened. |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 08 Posts: 22 Credit: 501,217 RAC: 0 |
...but in the meantime, please remain seated, and have your seat belts fastened. *click* |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
Actually it seems there are perhaps two problems. The non-export problem happened first. The second problem has to do with posting the trickles to the internal database. Perhaps both of these will be resolved by Wednesday, hope, hope. In any event, perhaps some information update should be posted suggesting that the admin folks are alerted to the problem? There has been A Problem. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
I informed the project people at Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:23 am, (Open University time, which is out an hour or 2 from GMT). Those people looking at the server status page at that time would have seen that ALL of the upload servers were off line. It turns out that only climateaps2 was down, because the HDs had filled up, thus stopping the server status progs, trickle updates, and export files from running. BOINCstats has updated, so it seems that things are back again. And I\'ll shortly be splitting the top half of this thread from the original posts, because it\'s gotten way off topic. |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 08 Posts: 22 Credit: 501,217 RAC: 0 |
In any event, perhaps some information update should be posted suggesting that the admin folks are alerted to the problem? Maybe. But perhaps it is also a good time to reflect upon what we are doing here in the first place: Devoting our processor cycles and extra watts to this worthy project. It\'s so very easy to get distracted by credits. But they are, at best, only a rough estimate as to what we may be contributing to the data pool. I quite understand the concern you are voicing. (Actually, I should say that I *think* I understand. Saying \"I understand\" can come off as a bit condescending.) I even agree. Expressing concern for how the SETI guys should be more communicative and sensitive to credit reporting issues, during time of crisis, in order to not to piss off more the more \"credit-sensitive\" users, more or less got me ousted from the SETI message board. (Ouch!) But all\'s well that ends well. :-) Take Care, Steve |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
I\'ve moved some posts about the thread name, from 2 other threads, to this new thread, as they were off topic \'back there\'. edit All of the moved posts were added here UNDER this original post. (Sorted on Newest first.) The first group are from Work Unit length- I am dumbfounded The second group are from No production, but going up the ranks? Backups: Here |
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