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Message boards : climateprediction.net Science : Poor Feed Back of What\'s Going on in the \"Industry\"
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Send message Joined: 19 Mar 07 Posts: 5 Credit: 20,936 RAC: 0 |
If this is a scientific forum why aren\'t opposing or irregular views presented regularly? Here are some tidbits from other forums: Recent Posts * CRUTEM and HadCRU October 2008 * Should the Credibility Crunch Move to NOAA? * Memo to Gavin Schmidt * Watch the Ball * Gavin Schmidt: \"The processing algorithm worked fine.\" All in All, it ain\'t fun to process these numbers because so few readable, understandable results are produced for the average guy. Remember, \"civilians\" make up a large percentage of your computer time contributions. Not to do a better job in letting them know what is going on and the latest (digestible) progress report (other than \"we had a bit of a problem with our server yesterday) seems rather unfortunate. I, for one, am very disappointed. Recent Comments CRUTEM and HadCRU October 2008: * Steve McIntyre: #41, At this point, I don\'t know… * Deep Climate: Steve said: The Nov 13 GISS version lacks… * Paolo M.: I try again for the … * Paolo M.: Here is the RSS … anomaly for… Did Napoleon Use Hansen\'s Temperature Data?: * henry: Seems to me that this … of… * The Strata-Sphere » Global Warming Lies Will Bring World Economic Recession: [...] GISS data again, as it claimed… * The world has never seen such freezing heat OR the Blunder with NASA: s GISS Temperature data « UD/RK Samhälls Debatt: [...] … [...] * John F. Pittman: Re: ba (#164), That is a good… Should the Credibility Crunch Move to NOAA?: * GeneII: Re: Mike Bryant (#131), If three or… * Mike Bryant: If three or four changes come out… * Buddenbrook: I agree with Pierre Gosselin. When isolated… * Kenneth Fritsch: Re: Steve McIntyre (#121), I could not… The U.S. Financial Crisis: * BarryW: Re: Kenneth Fritsch (#864), \"When all you… * Kenneth Fritsch: Re: DeWitt Payne (#863), … we may… * DeWitt Payne: Re: Kenneth Fritsch (#862), Finally I would… * Kenneth Fritsch: Re: DeWitt Payne (#860), … I have… Sea Ice - End of Game Analysis: * DeWitt Payne: Here\'s a first cut at a guess… Ruling in Mass v EPA: * Phil: The Mass v. EPA decision has been… Watch the Ball: * Buddenbrook: John F. Pittman, I would like to… * The world has never seen such freezing heat OT the Blunder with NASA: s GISS Temperature data « UD/RK Samhälls Debatt: Here is a partial quote from CRUTEM and HadCRU October 2008 by Steve McIntyre on November 14th, 2008 CRUTEM3 dataset We have recently changed the way that the smoothed time series of data were calculated. Data for 2008 were being used in the smoothing process as if they represented an accurate esimate of the year as a whole. This is not the case and owing to the unusually cool global average temperature in January 2008, it looked as though smoothed global average temperatures had dropped markedly in recent years, which is misleading. We\'ve recently corrected a minor bug in the error ranges provided for CRUTEM3 (the best estimate data are unchanged). If you have downloaded CRUTEM3 before November 20th 2007 please see this page. We\'ve recently corrected a minor bug in the error ranges provided for CRUTEM3 (the best estimate data are unchanged). If you have downloaded CRUTEM3 before October 27th 2006 please see this page. CRUTEM3 is a gridded dataset of global historical land surface temperature anomalies. Data are available for each month since January 1850, on a 5 degree grid. The dataset is a collaborative product of the Met Office Hadley Centre and the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia. The gridded data are based on an archive of monthly mean temperatures provided by more than 4000 weather stations distributed around the world. Each station temperature is converted to an anomaly from the 1961-90 average temperature for that station, and each grid-box value is the mean of all the station anomalies within that grid box. As well as the mean anomaly, estimates are made of the uncertainties caused by poor measurements, uncertainties in the station data, sampling uncertainties caused by the limited number of measurements available, and large-scale biases such as urbanisation. The image below shows near surface temperature anomalies for the most recent available month. A plus sign in any grid box indicates that the temperature anomaly in that grid box this month is the highest since the dataset starts in January 1850. Similarly a minus sign signals the lowest anomaly since 1850. CRUTM3 for latest month. |
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 mo.v Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 2363 Credit: 14,611,758 RAC: 0 |
Hi Stacey You and anyone else who wishes to present opposing or irregular views are more than welcome to do so. If you refer to what is being said on other forums could you please give active links. Because googling for Gavin Schmidt will produce thousands of results, most of them interesting and many relevant to CPDN, while googling for someone called henry saying \'Seems to me that this\' is likely to produce an incoherent hotch-potch. Many of your quotes seem to be from Steve McIntyre\'s website/blog Climate Audit which I wouldn\'t call a forum because on blogs one person\'s views take centre-stage. I wouldn\'t really recommend Climate Audit to average CPDN crunchers who probably want more of an overview. A very informative overview of climate models was, however, recently posted at RealClimate. On this CPDN website in the Climate Science section you will find overviews of the CPDN Geoengineering Experiment, the Mid-Holocene Experiment and CPDN\'s planned future participation in the Millennium Project. These overviews are aimed at our crunching members. If you look at this forum\'s news thread you will find far more than information on server outages. There are also links to a number of recent talks, one of them highly controversial, publications by CPDN researchers, and forthcoming meetings. Cpdn news |
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