Message boards : Number crunching : Trickle and credit delays
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Send message Joined: 26 Aug 04 Posts: 17 Credit: 367,996 RAC: 0 |
since some days, any news? |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
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Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
Is it just me or have other noticed with all the updates and successes regarding the hardware that trickles haven't updated in several days? I haven't seen any note about this elsewhere, though it may be in some non news thread. |
Send message Joined: 31 Aug 04 Posts: 145 Credit: 2,080,724 RAC: 753 |
I think it's fairly clear that all of us have noticed. The reported values have been a little suspect since 23rd actually. Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
We're waiting for Monday to arrive in the UK, so that Milo can look at the server. |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
OK -- I mean it has been pretty obvious to me (and I expect others), perhaps there was some gentlemen's agreement not to post anything about it over the past few days, and cad that I must be, I violated that agreement. In any event, this cad thanks you for the confirmation. It is just that the only messages I had seen on the news thread were all sorts of rhapsodic about how things had been taken care of and were working fine -- that confused me a bit, guess I didn't understand the code. I think it's fairly clear that all of us have noticed. The reported values have been a little suspect since 23rd actually. |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
OK -- that works -- I think this has been going on now for 4 days (ie starting on Wednesday night back in the UK) and, since the only notice I'd read was how things were working, (posted on Friday), I was a bit bewildered. We're waiting for Monday to arrive in the UK, so that Milo can look at the server. |
Send message Joined: 20 Feb 06 Posts: 158 Credit: 1,251,176 RAC: 0 |
I noticed first irregularities in trickles on 9th & 13th June and the subsequent complete loss on the 24th. The meaningless information being produced for Average Credit seem to be connected with the failure of Trickles. It would seem that the figure shown for "average credit" on both Your Computer and on the Statistics is wildly overstated and obviously incorrect. The figure shown in My Account data is completely different and seems it could be the correct figure NEVERTHELESS, IT IS VERY STRANGE THAT DIFFERENT FIGURES ARE BEING SHOWN FOR WHAT SHOULD BE THE SAME CALCULATION??? I assume others are experiencing similar anomalies as am I. (To be honest, I have found the so called Average Credit a waste of computing time, and should be ceased. the time can be devoted ot other far more important work, I am sure.) Keith |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
It would seem that the figure shown for "average credit" on both Your Computer and on the Statistics is wildly overstated and obviously incorrect. Have you read this thread? As for dumping RAC, perhaps you should suggest this on the SETI forums, because they are the ones for whom it was developed. After which, be prepared to join the witness protection program. :) |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
Notice to everyone! The name of this thread is: no trickles displayed It is NOT meant for discussing credits! |
Send message Joined: 20 Feb 06 Posts: 158 Credit: 1,251,176 RAC: 0 |
Notice to everyone! I am sorry to overstep the mark, Les. It was just that the two problems seem to be directld, and one might be the cause of the other. Timing of both problems being identical. I WILL SAY NO MORE. Keith |
Send message Joined: 1 Jan 07 Posts: 1061 Credit: 36,844,296 RAC: 5,353 |
Which models are having problems with no trickles being displayed? I'm running, for example, HADCM3 like task 8366356 HADAM3P like task 8961221 Every one I've looked at has had all its trickles displayed, present and correct. The only thing missing is.... - but that's a topic for another thread. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
I'm not trying to be a bossy boots about this, it's just that it makes it hard to tell just what people are reporting problems with. Is anyone having a problem with trickles missing? Or is it just no credits recently? (Due to the trickles-to-credits program not running, which gets re-started before long, and results in a rush of credit.) e.g. I've just uploaded 3 trickles each for 8 models, and all of these trickles appear on the pages for their models. |
Send message Joined: 5 May 07 Posts: 27 Credit: 6,369,307 RAC: 0 |
I'm not trying to be a bossy boots about this, it's just that it makes it hard to tell just what people are reporting problems with. Not the trickles, but the Credits. http://de.allprojectstats.com/showuser.php?projekt=21&id=448050 U can see downside last credits are from 24.Jun.2009 (1 day delay). The trickles are shown correctly: http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=9084650 There is something curious in the System. |
Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 2363 Credit: 14,611,758 RAC: 0 |
In one minute I'm going to explain why in the News thread (top of Number Crunching). Cpdn news |
Send message Joined: 31 Dec 07 Posts: 1152 Credit: 22,363,583 RAC: 5,022 |
For God’s sakes, is everyone obsessed with credits? It’s the work that’s important, not the meaningless cobblestones. If we don't stop global warming we are all in serious trouble. |
Send message Joined: 19 Apr 08 Posts: 179 Credit: 4,306,992 RAC: 0 |
I find credits to be an exceptionally low-calorie food substitute :) But they are useful in comparing machine performance, and in determining looping models. |
Send message Joined: 5 Feb 05 Posts: 465 Credit: 1,914,189 RAC: 0 |
I see they have been posted! |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 125 Credit: 11,778,421 RAC: 0 |
If noting that they haven't been posted for several days (the updates did show up yesterday) is defined as obsessed, I suppose an alternative view -- that folks who react and describe that simple posting and civil discussion as obsessive might be considered obsessed in their own way. Just sayin' For God’s sakes, is everyone obsessed with credits? It’s the work that’s important, not the meaningless cobblestones. If we don't stop global warming we are all in serious trouble. |
Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 2363 Credit: 14,611,758 RAC: 0 |
Well, obviously it's the crunching and completio of models for the research that's the important thing. Really it's the only thing we're doing this for. However, as the fun and competitive spirit of the credits and teams are a big motivator for some members, credits also serve the essential purpose. Cpdn news |
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