Thread 'FAMOUS SUCCESS/FAILURE RATIO'

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old_user294426 Send message Joined: 20 Feb 06 Posts: 158 Credit: 1,251,176 RAC: 0	Message 40745 - Posted: 22 Sep 2010, 20:16:07 UTC 27 tasks finished by MacBookPro Intel Core Duo 2.16 GHz running Darwin 9.8.0 Completed u series 6 v series 1 Error while computing 11 9 Totals 17 10 Only one was for year 599, and was a completed u series task. 2 v series In progress have been excluded as also have v series 2 ghosts, which are "in progress" due to a resetting of CPDN. Keith ID: 40745 · Reply Quote

John Hunt Send message Joined: 5 Mar 05 Posts: 64 Credit: 790,577 RAC: 0	Message 40770 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 6:39:06 UTC Famous_uiav_599_200_006656562_1 completed on Core2Quad Q6600 @2.4GHz Windows XP Home. http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=11533655 ID: 40770 · Reply Quote

JIM Send message Joined: 31 Dec 07 Posts: 1152 Credit: 22,363,583 RAC: 5,022	Message 40771 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 7:39:48 UTC Last modified: 25 Sep 2010, 7:40:26 UTC Famous_v0ta_1799_200_006686828_3 failed. Reason Ã¢â‚¬Å“Invalid ThetaÃ¢â‚¬Â. OS is Windows 7 32 bit running on a Core 2 Duo 1.5 GHz processor with 2 GB of RAM. ID: 40771 · Reply Quote

JIM Send message Joined: 31 Dec 07 Posts: 1152 Credit: 22,363,583 RAC: 5,022	Message 40773 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 17:19:07 UTC Last modified: 25 Sep 2010, 17:33:00 UTC Famous_ubr6_1799_200_006648077_5 failed. Reason invalid theta. OS is Windows 7 64 bit SP1 beta running on a Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz processor with 4 GB of RAM. ID: 40773 · Reply Quote

Greg van Paassen Send message Joined: 17 Nov 07 Posts: 142 Credit: 4,271,370 RAC: 0	Message 40774 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 22:38:57 UTC famous_ue4u_799_200_006651161_6 failed at 84%, win7-intel. Nothing unusual about the temperature chart.[/url] ID: 40774 · Reply Quote

old_user92639 Send message Joined: 13 Aug 05 Posts: 54 Credit: 117,227 RAC: 0	Message 40795 - Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 7:23:15 UTC http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=11696619 BUFFIN: Read Failed: No such file or directory BUFFIN: C I/O Error feof - Unit 60 - Return code = 16 BUFFIN: Read Failed: No such file or directory BUFFIN: C I/O Error feof - Unit 61 - Return code = 16 BUFFIN: Read Failed: No such file or directory BUFFIN: C I/O Error feof - Unit 68 - Return code = 16 BUFFIN: Read Failed: No such file or directory BUFFIN: C I/O Error feof - Unit 69 - Return code = 16 ID: 40795 · Reply Quote

Thyme Lawn Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1283 Credit: 15,824,334 RAC: 0	Message 40798 - Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 10:00:17 UTC - in response to Message 40795. The BUFFIN errors happen when a FAMOUS task is removed from memory between generating a trickle and the next checkpoint. The task is restarted from the checkpoint before the trickle and the error is generated when a second attenmpt is made to post-process the data for the previous year. The errors are harmless. "The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world that it leaves to its children." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer ID: 40798 · Reply Quote

John Hunt Send message Joined: 5 Mar 05 Posts: 64 Credit: 790,577 RAC: 0	Message 40803 - Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 22:10:47 UTC Famous_uiau_1999_200_006656561_2 completed on Core2quad Q6600 Windows XP Home. Workunit error - check skipped. http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=11533651 ID: 40803 · Reply Quote

mo.v Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 2363 Credit: 14,611,758 RAC: 0	Message 40804 - Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 22:58:58 UTC This 'Workunit error - check skipped' message means nothing for CPDN because our models aren't validated in the same way as tasks from other projects. It's a confounded nuisance and must put some people off. I don't know whether Milo could get rid of it. Similarly, on your model's workunit page we see 'Too many total results' which is another irrelevant message. Cpdn news ID: 40804 · Reply Quote

Les Bayliss Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0	Message 40805 - Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 23:09:24 UTC John The only messages relevant to climate models are found in stderr, which is on the main model page. As there aren't any error messages, and it says further up the page: Over Success Done, that particular model is just that; a success. Backups: Here ID: 40805 · Reply Quote

[B^S] mavau Send message Joined: 30 Aug 04 Posts: 142 Credit: 9,936,132 RAC: 0	Message 40976 - Posted: 5 Nov 2010, 20:16:21 UTC My latest stats: Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Completed UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.10 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 Error while computing UK Met Office FAMOUS v6.11 63 completed, 35 errors, not counting the phantoms. Forum search Site search ID: 40976 · Reply Quote

mo.v Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 2363 Credit: 14,611,758 RAC: 0	Message 40979 - Posted: 6 Nov 2010, 9:05:32 UTC Thank you for the results of such a large number of models. Superficially this appears to mean a success rate of about 64% and a failure rate of about 36%. However, as the failures take less time to run because they crash before the end, the failure rate must be lower (if we mean the probability that any model will complete or fail). I'm not sure how to calculate this. Ideally the calculation would need to take into account whether on average the crashes occur at 50% completion (ie are equally likely to happen at any processing moment). I don't know this. Cpdn news ID: 40979 · Reply Quote

transient Send message Joined: 3 Oct 06 Posts: 43 Credit: 8,017,057 RAC: 0	Message 40981 - Posted: 6 Nov 2010, 10:33:09 UTC Last modified: 6 Nov 2010, 10:33:40 UTC Maybe if you incorporate the CPU-time a better idea of failure rate can be gotten. Looking at the stats for the first host of [B^S] mavau's list, the total CPU time spent on FAMOUS models comes to approximately 61 million seconds (60785865.05). About 48 million seconds of those (48398651.3) were spent on successfully completed models. Maybe it is fair to say that makes for a 80% success rate for that particular host? Those numbers are based on 87 models (55/32). Or would you have to take into account the time spent if all models had completed successfully? In that case you'll get an about 63% success rate ID: 40981 · Reply Quote

[B^S] mavau Send message Joined: 30 Aug 04 Posts: 142 Credit: 9,936,132 RAC: 0	Message 40985 - Posted: 6 Nov 2010, 14:17:38 UTC I've been through my results in more detail. First, some of my errors were successes on other platforms. Error while computing Darwin success http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6923876 Error while computing Linux success http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6922152 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6919805 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6867265 Error while computing Darwin and Linux success http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6869834 Error while computing Windows 7 64-bit AMD success http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6870035 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6868920 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6867868 Error while computing XP AMD success http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6868473 And here is a look at my completed models failing on other platforms/combinations. This is not a full list. I've tried to exclude computers with constant failures, immediate failures... I haven't checked every failure. I've noted a few disk errors on Windows 7 I hadn't seen before towards the end of the list. Note the large number of invalid thetas on Darwin Linux AMD http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6837149 Linux Xeon http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6870087 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6870008 Darwin http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6867021 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6865840 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6889698 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6868148 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6868668 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6918367 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6918280 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6894568 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6922925 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6895570 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6893598 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6918731 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6918391 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6921744 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6920379 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6935286 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6938524 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6940555 Linux and Darwin http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6869410 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6919132 XP AMD http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6865756 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6889575 http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6868483 XP Intel http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6865602 Windows 7 AMD Vista AMD http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6837049 Server 2003 AMD Linux Intel http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6868542 Windows 7 64 AMD Darwin http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6921166 Windows 7 64 Intel disk error http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6918496 Windows 7 64 Intel disk error and Darwin http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6921700 XP AMD Darwin http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6921012 Forum search Site search ID: 40985 · Reply Quote

[B^S] mavau Send message Joined: 30 Aug 04 Posts: 142 Credit: 9,936,132 RAC: 0	Message 40986 - Posted: 6 Nov 2010, 19:41:20 UTC An early failure I'd missed (application doesn't show in the right column). Windows machines fail at the same point, Linux a little bit later, and Darwin succeeds. http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=6835898 Forum search Site search ID: 40986 · Reply Quote

Les Bayliss Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0	Message 40987 - Posted: 6 Nov 2010, 20:07:09 UTC The reason for the larger proportion of Darwin failures, is because the compiler used couldn't be set to not use SSE2 on Macs. So, while Windows and Linux were eventually set to not use SSE2, and therefore be more stable, (but slower), Macs weren't. (All of this was during testing on the beta site.) Statistics is beset with problems. Backups: Here ID: 40987 · Reply Quote

old_user92639 Send message Joined: 13 Aug 05 Posts: 54 Credit: 117,227 RAC: 0	Message 41031 - Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 23:40:52 UTC http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=12006782 famous_w9iy_599_200_006759034_0 FAIL cold temperature Ã‚Â°C ID: 41031 · Reply Quote

mo.v Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 2363 Credit: 14,611,758 RAC: 0	Message 41032 - Posted: 15 Nov 2010, 0:19:28 UTC Yes, what a cold graph. Cpdn news ID: 41032 · Reply Quote

JIM Send message Joined: 31 Dec 07 Posts: 1152 Credit: 22,363,583 RAC: 5,022	Message 41034 - Posted: 15 Nov 2010, 0:56:15 UTC - in response to Message 41031. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think that I have ever seen a graph like that before. That is more than just a cold snap. It is more a glacial age. It looks more like the entire Earth was entering a snowball phase like what geologists think happened about 700 million years ago. ID: 41034 · Reply Quote

JIM Send message Joined: 31 Dec 07 Posts: 1152 Credit: 22,363,583 RAC: 5,022	Message 41057 - Posted: 17 Nov 2010, 5:31:43 UTC Famous_v1eo_999_200_00672929-1 failed about 56 years. Invalid theta. OS is Windows 7 64 bit SP1 RC running on a Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz processor with 4 GB of RAM. ID: 41057 · Reply Quote