Hello,

My computer has been running 4 HADAM3P models for about 36 hours each and I have uploaded 4 trickles from each model but my credit score both locally, on this site, and on BOINCstats have not been updated. I know that BOINCstats will not be updated for some time, but I still should have updated credits here.

Below is one of the 4 tasks my computer is running and it shows received trickles but my stats on CPDN are not correct. I know stats only update once per day, but some trickles have been uploaded 2 days ago now.

http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=16401969

Does anyone have any ideas on why my credits are not reflecting uploaded trickles?

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We do know that the daily script that scrutinises the reported trickles and re-calculates credits hasn't been running for a while (about two weeks, I think).

However, we don't know exactly what caused it to fail. And we also know that the limited number of admin staff have been very busy, first with a special batch of research requests to examine the UK excess rainfall this winter, and more recently launching a much larger batch of ANZ models.

The admins do know about the credit drought, but I'm afraid the real climate is being given higher priority right now.

The credits haven't been updated on BoincStats for more than two weeks but we don't need to worry because the CPDN programmers always sort out this sort of thing eventually. We do, however, need to be patient!

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Cpdn news

Thank you mo.v, Richard, staff and Volunteer Cruncher,

for your dedication to this project. These problems will get fixed :)

It seems that the trickle and completed credits for Workunit 8896123 stopped updated at some point in the last few days.

Have a look at the answer in the Credit Updates thread.

It's not just the credits. The trickles themselves (or my latest two at least) are now not being added to the task details on the site.

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NG

Last Trickle recorded for my task was no.9, recorded on 6 June.
Task now complete and trickles 10 - 13 reported as uploaded through Boinc but they don't appear on the task page. stderr is there so all the data has probably got home, just not reported on the site as such yet.
I'm used to credits taking a while to update but not used to trickles being missing.

Ray Murray wrote:

I'm used to credits taking a while to update but not used to trickles being missing.

I'm seeing the same sort of thing... Glad (but sorry!) that I'm not alone. :-)

One host that's been running models for several days doesn't show trickles that have been uploaded. For most of them, the most recent recorded trickles are from June 5th or 6th. However, one shows an update from the 7th and another just today (June 9th).

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Just to reassure everyone, trickles not going on to the models' pages has happened before and been sorted out. I would guess that this might help identify which script(s) has/have fallen over.

Just to reassure everyone, trickles not going on to the models' pages has happened before and been sorted out. I would guess that this might help identify which script(s) has/have fallen over.

Yes. Thanks. My own missing trickles have appeared this morning. My credit's not been updated since a couple of trickles before them, but I'm used to that.

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NG

This is neither a question of the �42� answer order, but is there any purpose in trickling at all? Running 8 euro models concurrent on one machine and they're well into the 60th hour, another 30 projected to go, and no credits have appeared though the client log in leaps and bounds shows intermediate results are being uploaded, sometimes with hourly interval, sometimes a multi-hour break and then another hourly series. Here's one trickle log:

20 Jun 2014 11:21:54 1328724 16667824 hadam3p_eu_f6oz_2013_1_008760471_0 1 80,736 189,906 2.3522
20 Jun 2014 03:40:32 1328724 16667824 hadam3p_eu_f6oz_2013_1_008760471_0 1 69,216 163,006 2.3550
19 Jun 2014 19:38:44 1328724 16667824 hadam3p_eu_f6oz_2013_1_008760471_0 1 57,696 135,814 2.3540
19 Jun 2014 11:32:01 1328724 16667824 hadam3p_eu_f6oz_2013_1_008760471_0 1 46,176 108,310 2.3456
19 Jun 2014 04:00:32 1328724 16667824 hadam3p_eu_f6oz_2013_1_008760471_0 1 34,656 81,284 2.3455
18 Jun 2014 19:59:00 1328724 16667824 hadam3p_eu_f6oz_2013_1_008760471_0 1 23,136 54,066 2.3369
18 Jun 2014 10:20:08 1328724 16667824 hadam3p_eu_f6oz_2013_1_008760471_0 1 11,616 26,808 2.3079

As can be seen from a copy/paste of the current result status page, no credit at this time, though running uninterrupted:

16668615 8907240 1328724 17 Jun 2014 23:25:48 UTC 31 May 2015 4:45:48 UTC In progress --- --- --- --- UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region v6.09
16668614 8907239 1328724 17 Jun 2014 23:25:48 UTC 31 May 2015 4:45:48 UTC In progress --- --- --- --- UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region v6.09
16668602 8907227 1328724 17 Jun 2014 23:25:48 UTC 31 May 2015 4:45:48 UTC In progress --- --- --- --- UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region v6.09
16668601 8907226 1328724 17 Jun 2014 23:25:48 UTC 31 May 2015 4:45:48 UTC In progress --- --- --- --- UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region v6.09
16667850 8906475 1328724 18 Jun 2014 0:26:29 UTC 31 May 2015 5:46:29 UTC In progress --- --- --- --- UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region v6.09
16667829 8906454 1328724 18 Jun 2014 0:26:29 UTC 31 May 2015 5:46:29 UTC In progress --- --- --- --- UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region v6.09
16667827 8906452 1328724 18 Jun 2014 0:26:29 UTC 31 May 2015 5:46:29 UTC In progress --- --- --- --- UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region v6.09
16667824 8906449 1328724 18 Jun 2014 0:26:29 UTC 31 May 2015 5:46:29 UTC In progress --- --- --- --- UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region v6.09

Not that credit interests me all too much, but if there's a system, why does it appear to be so heckish inconsistent? The below still shows as recent results, one 1.3 million seconds getting 4.9k and another 1.3 million getting 7.1k. The device runs locked in on 3.7ghz, not like it's crawling on one and racing on the next.

16656681 	8901120 	1328724 	29 May 2014 16:58:21 UTC 	2 Jun 2014 14:25:09 UTC 	Completed 	323,847.72 	318,633.80 	2,386.39 	2,386.39 	UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region v6.09
16653569 	8898013 	1328724 	30 May 2014 0:03:34 UTC 	2 Jun 2014 16:26:37 UTC 	Completed 	316,022.25 	311,094.77 	2,187.67 	2,187.67 	UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region v6.09
16648432 	8877452 	1328724 	25 May 2014 4:56:15 UTC 	3 Jun 2014 18:20:35 UTC 	Completed 	802,230.80 	790,336.27 	--- 	4,484.28 	UK Met Office HADAM3P Australia New Zealand v6.10
16648367 	8867141 	1328724 	24 May 2014 23:42:02 UTC 	28 May 2014 16:37:47 UTC 	Error while computing 	300,818.71 	295,532.60 	1,555.20 	1,555.20 	UK Met Office Coupled Model Full Resolution Ocean v6.07
16648341 	8891802 	1328724 	24 May 2014 22:09:18 UTC 	3 Jun 2014 14:15:55 UTC 	Completed 	813,954.01 	[b]801,440.72[/b] 	--- 	[b]4,981.10[/b] 	UK Met Office HADAM3P Australia New Zealand v6.10
16648340 	8871717 	1328724 	24 May 2014 22:09:18 UTC 	9 Jun 2014 5:36:00 UTC 	Completed 	1,306,012.69 	[b]1,291,206.00[/b] 	--- 	[b]4,976.64[/b] 	UK Met Office Coupled Model Full Resolution Ocean v6.07
16647286 	8885821 	1328724 	22 May 2014 15:51:19 UTC 	22 May 2014 16:52:03 UTC 	Aborted by user 	0.00 	0.00 	0.00 	--- 	UK Met Office HADAM3P Australia New Zealand v6.10
16647218 	8875667 	1328724 	22 May 2014 13:49:59 UTC 	22 May 2014 16:52:03 UTC 	Aborted by user 	0.00 	0.00 	0.00 	--- 	UK Met Office HADAM3P Australia New Zealand v6.10
16647217 	8875666 	1328724 	22 May 2014 13:49:59 UTC 	22 May 2014 16:52:03 UTC 	Aborted by user 	0.00 	0.00 	0.00 	--- 	UK Met Office HADAM3P Australia New Zealand v6.10
16647216 	8875665 	1328724 	22 May 2014 13:49:59 UTC 	22 May 2014 16:52:03 UTC 	Aborted by user 	0.00 	0.00 	0.00 	--- 	UK Met Office HADAM3P Australia New Zealand v6.10
16647136 	8871408 	1328724 	22 May 2014 10:47:50 UTC 	7 Jun 2014 9:02:19 UTC 	Completed 	1,359,826.47 	[b]1,343,768.00[/b] 	--- 	[b]7,153.92[/b] 	UK Met Office Coupled Model Full Resolution Ocean v6.07 

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Some part of the credit system apparently needs to be recompiled before it can be scheduled to run at regular intervals: until that is done the credit updates rely on one of the project staff running the script manually, which happens irregularly.

As for the trickles themselves, it is perhaps worth pointing out that they are not only for the purpose of awarding credits on long and error-prone models but that they can also supply some 'real' data to the science team. Whether or not that happens varies from application to application: presumably the need for result visibility is the determining factor - for short models, such as the HADAM3P models, there's not much to gain by loading the trickles with data when the much more capable Zip files arrive at pretty much the same rate.

the Credit Script is down again. It doesn�t seem to have run in the last 2 or 3 days. Please fix.

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