Message boards : Number crunching : VirtualBox applicatons?
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Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
I am interested in running hadam3pm2 (hadam3p model with MOSES II land scheme), but am not interested in installing Linux, whether directly or on a virtual machine. Has consideration been given to developing an app that will run in VirtualBox without having to install an OS additionally, the way that Atlas and some of the other BOINC projects are doing? |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
My guess is No. But you'd have to ask the UK Met Office people. It's their programs that we run. (The HAD at the start of the program name is short for Hadley Centre, where their super computers are located.) |
Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
Thanks. |
Send message Joined: 16 Jan 10 Posts: 1084 Credit: 7,826,970 RAC: 5,066 |
Though the Linux CPDN application is not distributed as a configured virtual machine, you can presumably install VirtualBox (or equivalent) and just run BOINC in that. I did a course once using VirtualBox and apart from intermittent networking glitches it worked just fine ... |
Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
Yes, I expect that Linux itself would work fine. But I want to do non-Linux BOINC work also, and I think it might get involved rather quickly. I can just do the other CPDN projects on Windows, which will suit my needs. Thanks. |
Send message Joined: 6 Aug 04 Posts: 264 Credit: 965,476 RAC: 0 |
CERN has launched a new project, CernVM_WebAPI, which runs on Virtual Box also outside of BOINC and is hoping to get more volunteers to crunch data coming from LHC but also other particle accelerators. Data processing is becoming a problem for high energy physics research and astronomy, so the physicists and astronomers welcome the volunteers donating time and processing power. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 6 Aug 04 Posts: 264 Credit: 965,476 RAC: 0 |
This is the message I get on my main Linux box: No applications available for your OS. I've read that CPDN applications will be committed to a single OS because of the differences in numeric computations depending on the OS used,hence there will be mainly Windows programs rather than Linux or Mac OS X applications. If CPDN used a Virtual Machine like CERN does, they should have only one OS in which they run their projects and there would be no compatibility issues. CERN uses Scientific Linux. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 15 Feb 06 Posts: 137 Credit: 35,338,065 RAC: 13,003 |
There are nearly 11,000 tasks available for Linux currently. Perhaps you need to check your account preferences. |
Send message Joined: 6 Aug 04 Posts: 264 Credit: 965,476 RAC: 0 |
I have allowed all applications, I am still not getting any. I am running 2 vLHC@home tasks, but they only take 256 MB each and I have a 8 GB RAM. No other projects are running now on this 32-bit OS on a 64-bit Opteron 1210 CPU. OS is SuSE Linux 13.1, BOINC 7.2.41. VirtualBox 4.3.24. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
Hello Tullio No applications available for your OS is the type of message that you get when asking for these 32 bit models on a 64 bit BOINC, when the computer doesn't have 32 bit libraries installed. So perhaps it's something to do with the VM side of things. |
Send message Joined: 6 Aug 04 Posts: 264 Credit: 965,476 RAC: 0 |
My BOINC is 32-bit. I have reinstalled the former hard disk with a 32-bit OS, 32-bit BOINC and 32-bit VirtualBox. I have completed several CPDN tasks on that disk. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 6 Aug 04 Posts: 264 Credit: 965,476 RAC: 0 |
Got one HadCM3 short and is running alongside two vLHC@home. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 7 Aug 04 Posts: 2187 Credit: 64,822,615 RAC: 5,275 |
Is it possible that you have that PC assigned to a venue, i.e. Home, Work, School and that not all tasks are allowed in that venue? Just a guess. |
Send message Joined: 6 Aug 04 Posts: 264 Credit: 965,476 RAC: 0 |
Is it possible that you have that PC assigned to a venue, i.e. Home, Work, School and that not all tasks are allowed in that venue? Just a guess. Yes, it is Home but I have allowed all applications in Home. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
The boinc2docker project was mentioned on the Cosmology@Home forum (http://www.cosmologyathome.org/forum_thread.php?id=7222) as a convenient way to distribute BOINC apps that run on multiple operating systems: https://github.com/marius311/boinc2docker If it addresses any of the problems with the various versions of CPDN, maybe someone here could forward it to the relevant parties at the UK Met Office. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
This was discussed a year or two back, and is not considered the way forward, as it complicates things for the people who join via one of the simplified processes, such as Facebook. |
Send message Joined: 6 Aug 04 Posts: 264 Credit: 965,476 RAC: 0 |
At vLHC@home, which needs VirtualBox, there is a beta test CERN Summer Challenge which admits users from Google, Fecebook, Twitter, Live. No need to be a BOINC user. Tullio |
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