Message boards : Number crunching : Pending Credit Catchup Problem, for me ~150k owed or outstanding
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Send message Joined: 26 Oct 04 Posts: 17 Credit: 636,235 RAC: 0 |
Pending Credit Catchup Problem, for me ~150k owed or outstanding. Is it a systemwide problem or some ongoing 3 month glitch? IF it is, consider giving people the credit with some extra Interest to make up for the delays and glitches. : ) Pending credit Result ID Workunit ID Host ID Claimed credit 14878645 8188236 1226576 3,005.88 15086314 7109514 1226576 2,386.39 15161269 8314438 1226576 2,386.39 15230057 7010456 1226576 2,386.39 15327523 8366330 1226576 2,386.39 15474443 7217749 1226576 3,005.88 15510108 7832166 1226576 3,005.88 15551776 7190910 1226576 2,244.09 15694889 8412530 1226576 12,441.60 15865126 8547160 1226576 12,441.60 16023262 8606347 1226576 12,441.60 16098477 8550803 1226576 12,441.60 16221257 8579315 1226576 12,441.60 16362956 8574544 1226576 12,441.60 16451583 8766944 1226576 5,974.74 16577474 8767829 1226576 5,974.74 16695489 8889772 1226576 5,974.74 16840839 8867349 1226576 12,441.60 17175048 8879948 1226576 5,974.74 17332641 9277215 1226576 5,974.74 17555167 9353824 1226576 5,974.74 17583294 9381294 1226576 5,974.74 17904507 9381133 1226576 5,974.74 18050363 9655962 1226576 402.61 Pending credit: 156,099.05 |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4538 Credit: 19,006,502 RAC: 21,456 |
Hi, as mentioned in other threads, pending credits is not used by CPDN Credits are granted based on trickle up messages sent by tasks as they progress meaning that even if a task crashes you still get credit based on work done. The pending credit figure is to do with the BOINC server program which insists on producing that figure. Because the pending credit system where used usually depends on a second computer sending in a result that corroborates the first one for a task sent in and CPDN doesn't send the same task to other computers except when the task fails to complete on the first one this will never happen so your "pending credit" will keep going up. That is not to say there aren't problems from time to time with credit on CPDN but in my experience credit is always given eventually. |
Send message Joined: 26 Oct 04 Posts: 17 Credit: 636,235 RAC: 0 |
Hi, as mentioned in other threads, pending credits is not used by CPDN Credits are granted based on trickle up messages sent by tasks as they progress meaning that even if a task crashes you still get credit based on work done. The pending credit figure is to do with the BOINC server program which insists on producing that figure. I am aware of the different nature of Climate Simulation work units vs most other work units. The BOINC system was somewhat redesigned to handle the "Unique Work Unit" parameter [that is the default setting with Climate Prediction] (as no other project, save the Earthquake Sensor etc does this). However, for work units that did not complete -- in order to keep user loyalty ... is it not good practice to grant credit for the Trickles Sent? In granting trickle credit, it also opens up a window for database cleaning and normalizing. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
... is it not good practice to grant credit for the Trickles Sent? ... This IS what happens. But the BOINC parts aren't reset to zero. And it doesn't matter if the model completes or not, just as long as it returns trickle_up files during what was processed, so that they can be converted to credit. Which currently happens once per day. |
Send message Joined: 1 Nov 13 Posts: 1 Credit: 6,877 RAC: 0 |
I have a similar problem Workunit: 8664415 Created: 3 Mar 2014 11:31:21 UTC Validation: Pending Workunit: 8620562 Created: 27 Sep 2013 9:50:44 UTC Validation: Pending Should i worry about that? |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4538 Credit: 19,006,502 RAC: 21,456 |
Should i worry about that? No, because CPDN doesn't use pending credit. See below. However there have been some problems with the server(s) dealing with the trickle up messages over past couple of days. Not sure if they are all fixed yet. If not the credit will be granted once the feeders are running again. (may take up to 24 hours as the credit script just runs once per day.) Looking at one of my tasks that finished today it is still not showing any credit so I would assume that the feeder is not up and running again yet. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4538 Credit: 19,006,502 RAC: 21,456 |
Looking at one of my tasks that finished today it is still not showing any credit so I would assume that the feeder is not up and running again yet. On second thoughts, looking at my tasks, the trickle ups are being recorded on the task pages so it is more likely the crdit script has fallen over and needs restarting manually. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4538 Credit: 19,006,502 RAC: 21,456 |
And the script is running as I type. Should see updates in a couple of hours or so. A bit longer on external sites some of which only access the CPDN info once a day. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4538 Credit: 19,006,502 RAC: 21,456 |
Jonathan did try running the script yesterday. Will find out what went wrong on Monday probably. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4538 Credit: 19,006,502 RAC: 21,456 |
Don't know what the problem was but credit is updated on both my machines now. |
Send message Joined: 27 Jul 12 Posts: 21 Credit: 269,602 RAC: 0 |
Hi, The problem with credit was down to an infrastructure fault on our servers. The BOINC server could not connect to the database server, which meant that the credit script stalled. Once the problem was ironed out the credit script was restarted and AFAICS ran successfully. Jonathan CPDN Sys-Admin |
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