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Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
Store at least 0.3 days of work. On my Ryzen 3000 series and Ubuntu 18.04, I can usually get work at the default setting of 0.1 + 0.5 days. Sometimes if I am running other long ones (the Rosetta 24 hour work units for example), I have to increase it to 0.25 + 0.5, or a little more. It may take a little more on slower machines. Note that I limit the N216 to running two at a time however, or I take a hit on run times. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4540 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
Store at least 0.3 days of work. Seems reasonable to me. I am out of ideas now though. |
Send message Joined: 7 Aug 04 Posts: 2187 Credit: 64,822,615 RAC: 5,275 |
It may be worth trying increasing the number of days work requested above the default. I know Les didn't find anything in work fetch debug that was helpful. Seems reasonable. Do you run any other projects? If so, try getting work from them. Just wondering if this is a cpdn thing only. On my CentOS 8 VM, I installed and configured boinc mostly following a couple links https://boinc.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=11854 https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Fedora I also disabled selinux, although I don't know if that really did anything. I am able to get work on World Community Grid. After that task runs, I'll try cpdn. |
Send message Joined: 7 Aug 04 Posts: 2187 Credit: 64,822,615 RAC: 5,275 |
Jean-David Beyer The CentOS 8 installation did pick up a cpdn task, so not sure what the difference is between your setup and mine. |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1120 Credit: 17,202,915 RAC: 2,154 |
Seems reasonable. Do you run any other projects? If so, try getting work from them. Just wondering if this is a cpdn thing only. Yes, I am running World Community Grid and Rosetta@home and both are working just fine. So it seems to be a cpdn thing only. Am I just being too impatient? Tue 17 Nov 2020 03:59:34 PM EST | climateprediction.net | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. There seem to be work units available. UK Met Office HadAM4 at N216 resolution 5297 5277 429.98 (177.44 - 923.93) 25 |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
I've long suspected that it's a cpdn thing. I'll talk to the project. |
Send message Joined: 7 Aug 04 Posts: 2187 Credit: 64,822,615 RAC: 5,275 |
Yes, I am running World Community Grid and Rosetta@home and both are working just fine. So it seems to be a cpdn thing only. Am I just being too impatient? No, you're not being too impatient. It should work. I know you installed the recommended 32bit libraries in the instructions. But do this. Download http://www.cpdn.org/cpdnboinc/applications//hadam4_8.52_i686-pc-linux-gnu http://www.cpdn.org/cpdnboinc/applications//hadam4_se_8.52_i686-pc-linux-gnu.zip http://www.cpdn.org/cpdnboinc/applications//hadam4_um_8.52_i686-pc-linux-gnu.zip into a temp directory under your home directory. Unzip the zipped files then you will likely have to chmod them +x Then do an ldd * within that directory. Just to make sure that there are no unmet dependencies. If that doesn't show anything problematic, I suggest going through the two links in my last post and see if performing any steps in those linked posts might resolve the problem. I'm wondering if it's a permissions problem of some kind. |
Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 204 Credit: 7,608,986 RAC: 0 |
Llinux Mint is like that. Thank you, Les. I am running 9th and 10th gen Intel CPU core i7. Not asking for CPDN tasks. Those I baby along and at most, only allow three tasks to run at any given time. I asked for other projects. Just dump them in VM. Rosetta and Collatz perform like land-grabbers, give an inch, they will take a mile then Boinc will not badger the CPDN server. No badgering the server, no tasks. N216? Most probably I will get away with running only one task. |
Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 204 Credit: 7,608,986 RAC: 0 |
It may be worth trying increasing the number of days work requested above the default. I know Les didn't find anything in work fetch debug that was helpful. Maybe, ridiculous. These WU's take three days and some hours to complete on my laptop. Now if I set a figure of .3days and 1 additional day? "AI" might take ages to figure this one out and good luck to it, I cannot. Why not set it to ten days of work plus ten additional days? May fetch you two WU's. |
Send message Joined: 9 Oct 20 Posts: 690 Credit: 4,391,754 RAC: 6,918 |
It may be worth trying increasing the number of days work requested above the default. I know Les didn't find anything in work fetch debug that was helpful. The buffer size should never stop you getting work as it's a minimum. I'm on 0 + 0.13 and it downloaded a CPDN per core. If Boinc wants to get CPDN work, it will ask for 0.13 days of work. That will add up to 1 WU. It won't ask for 0 WUs. |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1120 Credit: 17,202,915 RAC: 2,154 |
No, you're not being too impatient. It should work. I know you installed the recommended 32bit libraries in the instructions. But do this. Download $ ldd hadam4_8.52_i686-pc-linux-gnu $ ldd hadam4_se_8.52_i686-pc-linux-gnu.so $ ldd hadam4_um_8.52_i686-pc-linux-gnu |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1120 Credit: 17,202,915 RAC: 2,154 |
If that doesn't show anything problematic, I suggest going through the two links in my last post and see if performing any steps in those linked posts might resolve the problem. I'm wondering if it's a permissions problem of some kind. Those links seem to have to do with being unable to connect to the server. But I can do that: Tue 17 Nov 2020 03:59:34 PM EST | climateprediction.net | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. |
Send message Joined: 7 Aug 04 Posts: 2187 Credit: 64,822,615 RAC: 5,275 |
You may have already said this, but do you have any other projects active at this time? If so, I suggest suspending the other projects and allowing boinc to request work from cpdn only. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
I'll leave off talking to the project until the results of this testing is finished. And if real world problems will just get out of my way, I may get a chance to finish rebuilding the machine that won't work, and try again with it. |
Send message Joined: 1 Sep 04 Posts: 161 Credit: 81,522,141 RAC: 1,164 |
Here is what I do to download work. 1. Set CPDN to the number of tasks you want to run concurrently using the app_config file. 2. Set ALL projects to "No New Tasks" 3. Set the Computing Preferences to 10 days work + 10 days additional days. 4. Set CPDN to request new tasks. 5. Wait for CPDN to request new tasks (up to 1 hour). It should now download some work unless there is some issue with your computer. 6. Set the Computing Preferences back to "normal" - for example 1 day + 0 additional. 7. Set the remaining projects back to request new work.. Now you should be good for 10 days or more (depending on your computer speed) My observation is that when I have additional projects (besides CPDN) they keep my queue filled and when a request is sent to CPDN the queue doesn't need any more work. By briefly setting the queue to 20 days (10+10), it will always download CPDN tasks. |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1120 Credit: 17,202,915 RAC: 2,154 |
Here is what I do to download work. What do I use for the application? and since there may be more than one, I assume I use multiples in here. <app_config> <app> <name>Application_Name</name> <max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent> </app> </app_config> |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4540 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
I have never bothered with an app_config.xml |
Send message Joined: 1 Sep 04 Posts: 161 Credit: 81,522,141 RAC: 1,164 |
I am using UBUNTU 20.04 To set the project limit - 1. Navigate to /var/lib/boinc-client/projects/climateprediction.net 2. Create a file named app_config.xml 3. Place the following three lines in the file. <app_config> <project_max_concurrent>4</project_max_concurrent> </app_config> 4. Save it. 5. In BOINC Manager - > Options, select Read Config files |
Send message Joined: 28 Jul 19 Posts: 150 Credit: 12,830,559 RAC: 228 |
Here is what I do to download work. That’s exactly what I’ve been doing and the diagnostics show that I’m requesting 12 WUs and tens of thousands of seconds work but the server allocates no work :-( |
Send message Joined: 1 Sep 04 Posts: 161 Credit: 81,522,141 RAC: 1,164 |
Bryn Mawr - Sorry to read you can't get any work. I have 5 or 6 computers and it has worked for me every time. You have the same OS and AMD processors as me.There must be something that I haven't encountered yet. |
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