Message boards : Number crunching : What Happened ???
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Send message Joined: 16 Jan 10 Posts: 1084 Credit: 7,829,455 RAC: 5,056 |
[Vicki wrote:]... 13+ hours trying to download 4 tasks is making dial up look fast. ... Your machines are hidden so I can't see the tasks that are taking so long to download, but I've had a group of very old task reissues do that today (HADAM3P, batches 469/470): if so, they're from 2016 and will never download - they can safely be aborted, or at least that's what I did to mine. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4540 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
I too was a bit surprised to see a task from batch 470 trying to download. Some of the files did but the rest all went to backoff. I too have aborted. Edit: On looking at my account page, that is the only tasks listed as in progress on that machine, the four actually running aren't listed. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4540 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
if so, they're from 2016 and will never download Except, I have a 470 that has just downloaded and is now running. |
Send message Joined: 29 Jun 12 Posts: 31 Credit: 1,438,478 RAC: 0 |
I have 8 out of 14 that are from 2016 that unstuck and downloaded, I'm currently crunching 3 of them. They went in to project backoff for over 24 hours, everything has cleared now. |
Send message Joined: 1 Nov 04 Posts: 185 Credit: 4,166,063 RAC: 857 |
The two on my computer currently running, but not in my task list, are named:
hadsm3s_812e_201412_120_564_011003689 (UK Met Office HadCM3 short 8.34) running since 29h, currently at 17.8%
Grüße vom Sänger |
Send message Joined: 28 Nov 15 Posts: 50 Credit: 4,099,809 RAC: 0 |
My computers are now visible. 1 computer has completed downloading, the other is labeled vicki-ace & is still stuck. A mix of sam25, wah2_global and wah2_ea50 |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
The two on my computer currently running, but not in my task list, are named: Because we're still running on the slave database while Andy works on the main server. Nothing that is seen on any lists can be assumed to be real. |
Send message Joined: 27 Jan 07 Posts: 300 Credit: 3,288,263 RAC: 26,370 |
When this site shuts down, people switch to the BOINC site, in particular the Projects section, top post, which is: News on Project Outages, where a message, usually from Andy, is posted. First of all, I (and likely many others) did not know there was a specific forum on some other site, somewhere, where a cryptic message about some maintenance was posted.... Furthermore, the site has been down for over a month! That sounds much worse than some routine maintenance, so I consider that post deceptive. I'm glad the site is back, and I hope such a long outage does not happen again. In the future, a post on the HOME PAGE of climateprediction.net would be much more appropriate and visible to the community. |
Send message Joined: 3 Sep 04 Posts: 126 Credit: 26,610,380 RAC: 3,377 |
In the future, a post on the HOME PAGE of climateprediction.net would be much more appropriate and visible to the community. There was a post on the homepage about the problems. |
Send message Joined: 31 Dec 07 Posts: 1152 Credit: 22,363,583 RAC: 5,022 |
What I don’t understand is why when the Project Admins need to communicate with the Crunchers they don’t post in the notices tab if the Boinc Manager? Presumably, that’s what it’s there for. Even if it’s only to tell us that more info is available at another website. Other projects make extensive use of it. Seti posts there all the time. |
Send message Joined: 27 Jan 07 Posts: 300 Credit: 3,288,263 RAC: 26,370 |
The entire cpdn.org website was down for an extended time. I visited climateprediction.net several times but did not see any notice about downtime. |
Send message Joined: 28 Nov 15 Posts: 50 Credit: 4,099,809 RAC: 0 |
The last stuck file just sprinted to its finish line; the fastest download speed I have seen on that desktop in ages, esp from cpdn. 3+ days to download. I will stick to my plan of catch up football on other projects, which will give them more time to fix up the server properly. My lappy has about a weeks worth of Einstein to crunch on in the meantime & the desktop crunching on mixture of Seti & Einstein. The last month I have finally crossed over the 800k mark in total Seti credit, long overdue given that it was the first project I joined, way back before Bonic changed into its current form. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4540 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
Latest update I saw after the project went off line. The CPDN project is now offline. I will be taking a database dump of the database in order to resurrect the master-slave relationship on the two database servers in the project. In order to do this I need a database where no transactions are taking place. Once this is complete, it is likely we will start the project from the backup project server, rather than the main project server, due to ongoing instabilities in the main GPFS infrastructure. Project updates seem to be working again though no tasks available. I haven't looked to see if the information on my account pages is more accurate than it was yet. Edit: Information on tasks running etc. still wildly out on my account so I imagine the same is still true for others. Will wait till things improve before checking out some other issues I have had. |
Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
I am not getting any new tasks either. But both of my work units that finished today are showing properly as completed on my tasks page. So things are a bit better. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
Hi All, Just to let you know that the project is now back online, rather than running from the backup project server, we are running from the main project server. The infrastructure still remains at risk due to ongoing instabilities in the main VMware/GPFS infrastructure. Best regards, Andy So don't keep poking it, or you might break it again. :) |
Send message Joined: 3 Sep 04 Posts: 126 Credit: 26,610,380 RAC: 3,377 |
Last week I downloaded three tasks (20878730, 20878130 and 20876968) on https://www.cpdn.org/cpdnboinc/results.php?hostid=1425854 which I already downloaded last November and returned successfully. Task 20425445 was listed as downloaded in May 2017 but wasn't actually received. It was also downloaded last week and returned successfully. The original tasks aren't shown in the list anymore. So if you find these low task numbers you might have processed them already. |
Send message Joined: 29 Jun 12 Posts: 31 Credit: 1,438,478 RAC: 0 |
Server page is out dated, are there any tasks or are we out right now? |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
The first part of this has been known for some time. There are no answers for the other two questions. However, occasionally someone posts about getting tasks. Whether or not these tasks are valid, or some that the BOINC server code has regurgitated, isn't known. |
Send message Joined: 24 Oct 16 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,866,525 RAC: 1,022 |
What happened ??? The expected happened. Climateprediction.net must hold the honour of probably being the worst maintained project in BOINC history. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4540 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
Climateprediction.net must hold the honour of probably being the worst maintained project in BOINC history. There is another climate science project that goes for even longer periods with apparently nothing happening. I have run it sometimes when this project is down/has no work. I am sure that a substantial increase in funding would make a difference. As Les says, things have improved and I expect they will continue to improve as Andy continues to work on rebuilding everything. However work on the script to provide daily credit updates is clearly going to be on the back burner for a while. |
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