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Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
Might as well abort, I can't see them finding what's wrong any time soon. |
Send message Joined: 23 Feb 05 Posts: 7 Credit: 1,423,261 RAC: 213 |
I logged onto the machine now intending to abort it and funnily enough the transfer had finally succeeded just a couple of hours ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
That's good. After I posted here, I put a message on our project board, and the researcher in Mexico picked it up soon after and posted: Hi! there was a a brief shutdown the 26th of October (for maintenance), so that might be the cause. They're going to look into it when they're back in the office. I Thought: Great. Too late now. I'll post another internal message. |
Send message Joined: 23 Feb 05 Posts: 7 Credit: 1,423,261 RAC: 213 |
Very good thanks for sorting it out then. |
Send message Joined: 27 May 15 Posts: 3 Credit: 116,513 RAC: 61 |
Hi I can't get WUs to upload either Upload : Pending (project backoff> and then a timer) |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
If you're talking about batch 869, PNW, then it's been closed. Sorry, but you took too long. Just abort them. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4540 Credit: 19,023,069 RAC: 20,515 |
So out of curiosity, how much internet should I be using *per* task vs. drive space? Is it 2 gb per task which progressively gets smaller on the drive as the task moves along? Additionally I'm guessing that if an upload fails it would show up either a) in the tasks list on the website or b) in the boinc transfers window? Currently I have ten tasks on my Ryzen. disk usage for CPDN is 25.5GB. My laptop with just one task is currently using 3GB disk space. Uploads from memory are about 100MB for the zips on my Linux boxes. The only time this is a problem for me with bored as opposed to broad band is during zoom calls when I suspend internet activity for BOINC. I think there is also the facility to restrict the bandwidth used but as it is on the same machine I use for Zoom, I just make sure BOINC can't grab my bandwidth. Please do not private message myself or other moderators for help. This limits the number of people who are able to help and deprives others who may benefit from the answer. |
Send message Joined: 27 May 15 Posts: 3 Credit: 116,513 RAC: 61 |
If you're talking about batch 869, PNW, then it's been closed. Thanks Deadline of the Work Units was End of April this year - didn't know they become invalid if someone is quicker - good to know. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
The "deadline" that's often quoted, is just a very long time to stop BOINC from causing problems when shorter tasks from other projects are run at the same time. The ones that I mentioned, are the real deadlines here. And whether or not the long BOINC time is needed anymore is the subject of much discussion. |
Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 204 Credit: 7,608,986 RAC: 0 |
We (Pakistan, South Asia) have had the warmest winter that I have seen in the past 65 years. It might become a record of sorts. Let us say, no winter at all. Just Autumn, Spring type temps. |
Send message Joined: 9 Oct 20 Posts: 690 Credit: 4,391,754 RAC: 6,918 |
The "deadline" that's often quoted, is just a very long time to stop BOINC from causing problems when shorter tasks from other projects are run at the same time.At the risk of repeating what's already been said, if the server lies to the client and user about when the work must be done, it won't be done on time. If it has to be done in say 2 months, then set that as the deadline. Then the client will do it more urgently if it's nearing that time, and the user can know if their computer is too slow (or not switched on often enough) and wasting time doing these big tasks. Because of this nonsense, Merowig has just pointlessly wasted electricity running tasks that are now cancelled. |
Send message Joined: 9 Oct 20 Posts: 690 Credit: 4,391,754 RAC: 6,918 |
We (Pakistan, South Asia) have had the warmest winter that I have seen in the past 65 years. It might become a record of sorts. Let us say, no winter at all. Just Autumn, Spring type temps.It's snowing here. The scientists obviously haven't told the clouds about the new regulations. |
Send message Joined: 22 Feb 06 Posts: 491 Credit: 30,994,950 RAC: 14,359 |
Would it be possible to post when batches are closed because enough results are in for the researchers to work on? |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
Usually they're closed a long time after they're issued, to free up storage space. Several (all?) of the AFLAME batches have just been closed. This started in April 2019. More than enough time to crunch them. |
Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 204 Credit: 7,608,986 RAC: 0 |
We (Pakistan, South Asia) have had the warmest winter that I have seen in the past 65 years. It might become a record of sorts. Let us say, no winter at all. Just Autumn, Spring type temps.It's snowing here. The scientists obviously haven't told the clouds about the new regulations. ______________________ Peter, what do scientists have to do with clouds? Just return us our snow. Himalayas, Hindu Kush, Pamirs, etc. A sort of drought or to confuse drouth, you can take whichever word you can understand. ;) p) This year will be the warmest on record. . |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
And this thread is not about weather. Personal observations about this should be in the Cafe section. |
Send message Joined: 9 Oct 20 Posts: 690 Credit: 4,391,754 RAC: 6,918 |
Would it be possible to post when batches are closed because enough results are in for the researchers to work on?Or just abort the running tasks. This facility is available within Boinc. And no, it doesn't upset a user to have something cancelled, what upsets users is continuing to run something utterly pointless, using electricity which is contributing to the climate change you're trying to study. |
Send message Joined: 9 Oct 20 Posts: 690 Credit: 4,391,754 RAC: 6,918 |
I was implying the EU had dictated that our weather must be warmer so they haven't wasted money on "carbon credit" schemes.We (Pakistan, South Asia) have had the warmest winter that I have seen in the past 65 years. It might become a record of sorts. Let us say, no winter at all. Just Autumn, Spring type temps.It's snowing here. The scientists obviously haven't told the clouds about the new regulations. |
Send message Joined: 9 Oct 20 Posts: 690 Credit: 4,391,754 RAC: 6,918 |
And this thread is not about weather.If a conversation drifts (perfectly normal for the English language), where is the button I click to create a link to continue it over there? Make one and I'll use it. |
Send message Joined: 16 Jan 10 Posts: 1084 Credit: 7,815,352 RAC: 5,242 |
And this thread is not about weather.If a conversation drifts (perfectly normal for the English language), where is the button I click to create a link to continue it over there? Make one and I'll use it. The moderators can move posts, but only do that in extremis. If another thread were to be created then any comments in this thread could be easily shifted if requested, but it's more of a meandering conversation here at the moment. Upload failures is the topic of this thread, though, and people looking at the thread might well expect the conversation to be principally about that. |
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