Message boards : Number crunching : What is "HadAM4 at N216 resolution v8.52"?
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Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
This is apparently the current work unit, and the last one I ran, but don't see a description for it. But before taking resources off of coronavirus, I am wondering what it is? The files include "ozone" and "solar", so it could be important in those areas. |
Send message Joined: 31 Dec 07 Posts: 1152 Credit: 22,363,583 RAC: 5,022 |
This is apparently the current work unit, and the last one I ran, but don't see a description for it. HadAM4 at N216 resolution v8.52 is the new Linux only model. From what I’ve read it requires a lot of RAM (about 4GB per core) to run well. |
Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
OK, a lot of RAM I can do. In fact, I was hoping for that. But I am wondering what the science is? They usually have a description on the cover-page, but nothing now. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
It's part of DOCILE: DOCILE (Drives Of Change In mid-Latitude weather Events) The only other info is in HadAM4 at N216 resolution (The post from the researcher.) The 4 Gigs refers to L3 cache. |
Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
OK, I will give it a couple of cores to start. Thanks. |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1120 Credit: 17,202,915 RAC: 2,154 |
HadAM4 at N216 resolution v8.52 is the new Linux only model. From what I’ve read it requires a lot of RAM (about 4GB per core) to run well. I got four of those on my relatively slow machine. One of them crashed soon after the second trickle (in Message 62299 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 12:16:51 UTC ), but the other three seem to be running OK. One has done three trickles and the others, two each. As far as RAM is concerned, they seem to take about the same as all N216 models. VIRT RES SHR 1383m 1.3g 15m Memory 15.5 GB Cache 10240 KB |
Send message Joined: 22 Feb 06 Posts: 491 Credit: 30,992,465 RAC: 14,585 |
More likely to be 4Mb L3 cache. My I5 has 6Mb L3 and handles 3 tasks reasonably well, but is faster running only 2 by about 15% (32sec/ts vs 38sec/ts). |
Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
More likely to be 4Mb L3 cache. My I5 has 6Mb L3 and handles 3 tasks reasonably well, but is faster running only 2 by about 15% (32sec/ts vs 38sec/ts). I normally load up as many as the CPU will take without a big slowdown. That is usually four on my machines. But this time, I am trying one at a time on each of several machines: i7-9700 (eight full cores) i7-8700 (twelve virtual cores) Ryzen 3700X (sixteen virtual cores) Ryzen 3600 (twelve virtual cores) Ryzen 2700 (sixteen virtual cores) Ryzen 2600 (twelve virtual cores). I know which ones will do best, but by how much is not clear. Each machine has Rosettas on the other cores, so they should be more or less equal in that regard. The question will be whether it is better to run more of them on a few machines, or fewer of them on many machines. The most interesting would be my new Ryzen 3950X, but it is tied up full time on Folding. If Oxford can get their vaccine to work, I can return it to other duties. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
Ah, yes. I know it's 4 something. :( It was discussed at length in the special thread for those models. And perhaps to look at them from a different point: They're not researching specific events, the way that the Attribution models do. They're collecting hi-res data points far into the future, for the benefit of climate modellers looking way down the track to plan for "something". |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1120 Credit: 17,202,915 RAC: 2,154 |
The 4 Gigs refers to L3 cache. So when I look at the processor using cpdn web site, and it says CPU type GenuineIntel to which cache does it refer? |
Send message Joined: 15 Jan 06 Posts: 637 Credit: 26,751,529 RAC: 653 |
Cache 10240 KB I think they just add L1 + L2 + L3 to get that number, from the ones I have seen. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
The E5-2603 processor is a Sandy Bridge. Look at this page Find the processor, then move across to the L3 Cache column. It says 10 MB. |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 05 Posts: 116 Credit: 12,547,934 RAC: 2,738 |
I don't know where Boinc gets these cache values, but my I7-7820X shows here to have 256 KB cache and wikipedia shows L2 = 8 x 1024 KiB and L3 = 11 MiB. |
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