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Message 69087 - Posted: 2 Jul 2023, 20:39:13 UTC

A quick note to say that George, one of my fellow mods has pointed out to me that the NZ testing task I was running was to compare with the EAS ones and will not be resulting in work. If I was paying more attention I might have twigged that myself.
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Message 69096 - Posted: 3 Jul 2023, 14:54:37 UTC

Chaps, this is getting very off topic. Can we please keep it on point? We want information easy to find on these forums.
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Message 69097 - Posted: 3 Jul 2023, 15:31:23 UTC - in response to Message 69096.  

Thanks Glen. I have moved a bunch of posts including some of my own to the off topics thread in the cafe section of the forums.
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Message 69110 - Posted: 4 Jul 2023, 14:04:04 UTC - in response to Message 69081.  

These 3 WUs started at the same time and they're all at 36-38% progress. They're all running on the same Win7 i5-4690K quadcore CPU with nothing else running. I've restarted BOINC twice and the first was to upgrade to 7.22.2. Set to only allow a single file transfer. Might there be a clue in one working properrly and two not or is just random?

wah2_eas25_a21o_200211_25_994_012218090_0
https://www.cpdn.org/result.php?resultid=22321358
wah2_eas25_a21o_200211_25_994_012218090_0_r98403190_1.zip 1.136 121210.47 K 00:18:38 - 197:37:54 85.08 KBps Uploading
wah2_eas25_a21o_200211_25_994_012218090_0_r98403190_5.zip 90.622 121400.95 K 00:31:46 - 105:43:03 0.00 KBps Upload pending (Retry in: 03:05:03), retried: 62
slot 4: Transferred _9.zip today with _1.zip & _5.zip still hung after a BOINC restart.

wah2_eas25_a23h_200211_25_994_012218155_0
https://www.cpdn.org/result.php?resultid=22321423
slot 6: This WU has transferred 9 zips as of this morning with none hanging.

wah2_eas25_a342_201111_25_994_012219472_0
https://www.cpdn.org/result.php?resultid=22322764
wah2_eas25_a342_201111_25_994_012219472_0_r523039799_4.zip 0.000 120899.03 K 00:24:22 - 152:14:17 0.00 KBps Upload pending (Retry in: 02:55:04), retried: 55
slot 5: Transferred _9.zip yesterday with _4.zip still hung after a BOINC restart.


wah2_eas25_a21o_200211_25_994_012218090_0 failed with an error while computing.
wah2_eas25_a23h_200211_25_994_012218155_0 is still running nicely with no hung ULs.
wah2_eas25_a342_201111_25_994_012219472_0 ULed _12.zip and _restart.zip today but _4.zip still refuses to UL.
No feedback says they'll just run to failure with no fix forthcoming.
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Message 69111 - Posted: 4 Jul 2023, 15:45:21 UTC - in response to Message 69110.  

[quote]These 3 WUs started at the same time and they're all at 36-38% progress. They're all running on the same Win7 i5-4690K quadcore CPU with nothing else running. I've restarted BOINC twice and the first was to upgrade to 7.22.2. Set to only allow a single file transfer.

wah2_eas25_a23h_200211_25_994_012218155_0
https://www.cpdn.org/result.php?resultid=22321423
wah2_eas25_a23h_200211_25_994_012218155_0 now has _12.zip and _restart.zip hung.
Looks like all 3 of my WUs will be failures.
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Message 69112 - Posted: 5 Jul 2023, 7:38:56 UTC

Looks like the server is down again.

05/07/2023 07:43:48 | climateprediction.net | [file_xfer] http op done; retval -184 (transient HTTP error)
05/07/2023 07:43:48 | climateprediction.net | [file_xfer] http op done; retval -184 (transient HTTP error)
05/07/2023 07:43:48 | climateprediction.net | [file_xfer] file transfer status -184 (transient HTTP error)
05/07/2023 07:43:48 | climateprediction.net | Temporarily failed upload of wah2_eas25_a1t4_200011_25_994_012217782_2_r734268285_25.zip: transient HTTP error
05/07/2023 07:43:48 | climateprediction.net | [file_xfer] project-wide upload delay for 13849.787896 sec
05/07/2023 07:43:48 | climateprediction.net | Backing off 03:46:21 on upload of wah2_eas25_a1t4_200011_25_994_012217782_2_r734268285_25.zip
05/07/2023 07:43:48 | climateprediction.net | [file_xfer] file transfer status -184 (transient HTTP error)
05/07/2023 07:43:48 | climateprediction.net | Temporarily failed upload of wah2_eas25_a1t4_200011_25_994_012217782_2_r734268285_out.zip: transient HTTP error
05/07/2023 07:43:48 | climateprediction.net | Backing off 03:28:21 on upload of wah2_eas25_a1t4_200011_25_994_012217782_2_r734268285_out.zip
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Message 69115 - Posted: 5 Jul 2023, 16:12:05 UTC

Looks like the server is down again.
Working again for me at least. If still a problem, could you enable http debug in the event log options and check that they are going to the same server. We did have at least one batch a long time ago when the last zip and the out file went to a different server.
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Message 69116 - Posted: 5 Jul 2023, 16:17:03 UTC - in response to Message 69115.  

05.07.2023 19:15:08 | climateprediction.net | Started upload of wah2_eas25_a322_201011_25_994_012219400_0_r1988609399_restart.zip
05.07.2023 19:15:09 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  Connection 12581 seems to be dead
05.07.2023 19:15:09 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  Closing connection 12581
05.07.2023 19:15:09 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  schannel: shutting down SSL/TLS connection with root.ithena.net port 443
05.07.2023 19:15:09 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  Hostname in DNS cache was stale, zapped
05.07.2023 19:15:09 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:    Trying 141.223.16.156:80...
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  Connected to upload7.cpdn.org (141.223.16.156) port 80 (#12582)
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: POST /cgi-bin/file_upload_handler HTTP/1.1
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Host: upload7.cpdn.org
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: User-Agent: BOINC client (windows_x86_64 7.22.2)
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Accept: */*
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Accept-Language: ru
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Content-Length: 318
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server:
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  We are completely uploaded and fine
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server: Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2023 16:28:35 GMT
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server: Server: Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS)
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server: Transfer-Encoding: chunked
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server:
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server: 64
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server: <data_server_reply>
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server:     <status>0</status>
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server:     <file_size>97517568</file_size>
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server: </data_server_reply>
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server:
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server: 0
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server:
05.07.2023 19:15:10 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  Connection #12582 to host upload7.cpdn.org left intact
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  Found bundle for host: 0x33e1dd0 [serially]
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  Re-using existing connection #12582 with host upload7.cpdn.org
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: POST /cgi-bin/file_upload_handler HTTP/1.1
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Host: upload7.cpdn.org
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: User-Agent: BOINC client (windows_x86_64 7.22.2)
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Accept: */*
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Accept-Language: ru
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Content-Length: 37476527
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server: Expect: 100-continue
05.07.2023 19:15:11 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Sent header to server:
05.07.2023 19:15:12 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Received header from server: HTTP/1.1 100 Continue
05.07.2023 19:15:40 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  Recv failure: Connection was reset
05.07.2023 19:15:40 | climateprediction.net | [http] [ID#36955] Info:  Closing connection 12582
05.07.2023 19:15:40 | climateprediction.net | [http] HTTP error: Failure when receiving data from the peer
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] HTTP_OP::init_get(): https://www.google.com/
05.07.2023 19:15:41 | climateprediction.net | Temporarily failed upload of wah2_eas25_a322_201011_25_994_012219400_0_r1988609399_restart.zip: transient HTTP error
05.07.2023 19:15:41 | climateprediction.net | Backing off 03:00:53 on upload of wah2_eas25_a322_201011_25_994_012219400_0_r1988609399_restart.zip
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Info:    Trying 108.177.14.147:443...
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Info:  Connected to www.google.com (108.177.14.147) port 443 (#12584)
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Info:  schannel: disabled automatic use of client certificate
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Info:  ALPN: offers http/1.1
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Info:  ALPN: server accepted http/1.1
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Info:  using HTTP/1.1
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: GET / HTTP/1.1
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: Host: www.google.com
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: User-Agent: BOINC client (windows_x86_64 7.22.2)
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: Accept: */*
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: Accept-Language: ru
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: </project_name>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:     <name>wah2_eas25_a322_201011_25_994_012219400_0_r1988609399_restart.zip</name>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:     <nbytes>134993599.000000</nbytes>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:     <max_nbytes>150000000.000000</max_nbytes>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:     <status>1</status>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:     <persistent_file_xfer>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:         <num_retries>16</num_retries>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:         <first_request_time>1688441143.446878</first_request_time>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:         <next_request_time>1688584595.124421</next_request_time>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:         <time_so_far>809.837883</time_so_far>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:         <last_bytes_xferred>97845248.000000</last_bytes_xferred>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:         <is_upload>1</is_upload>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server:     </persistent_file_xfer>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: </file_transfer>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: </file_transfers>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: </boinc_gui_rpc_reply>
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Sent header to server: 
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Info:  schannel: remote party requests renegotiation
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Info:  schannel: renegotiating SSL/TLS connection
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Info:  schannel: SSL/TLS connection renegotiated
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2023 16:15:41 GMT
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Expires: -1
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Cache-Control: private, max-age=0
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1251
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Content-Security-Policy-Report-Only: object-src 'none';base-uri 'self';script-src 'nonce-VbizMFrvu8jN0cx_pt3Knw' 'strict-dynamic' 'report-sample' 'unsafe-eval' 'unsafe-inline' https: http:;report-uri https://csp.withgoogle.com/csp/gws/other-hp
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: P3P: CP="This is not a P3P policy! See g.co/p3phelp for more info."
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Content-Encoding: gzip
01.01.1970 3:00:00 |  | 
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: X-XSS-Protection: 0
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Set-Cookie: 1P_JAR=2023-07-05-16; expires=Fri, 04-Aug-2023 16:15:41 GMT; path=/; domain=.google.com; Secure
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Set-Cookie: AEC=Ad49MVEBPns8tmuPQiw45LesLgq20yCFJoPBHufHsCNL93nZLmdEWfvmYg; expires=Mon, 01-Jan-2024 16:15:41 GMT; path=/; domain=.google.com; Secure; HttpOnly; SameSite=lax
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Set-Cookie: NID=511=E6vYlWfJ6uTfRmTbx-T3OSdIAc41T90rWec9L8lSJdnq2wtYjIGAfM0l2Pa5Wq46ZAfyJ5qR5d-hJ-K17sxRZym0J-DeVEq_A2H8wIBYWStqtSsVq-XIKyrdX-O1u-mwrxe9odEsDZCypfvLVJrlotpuCHCKmHTnpGTJZ-lE5tE; expires=Thu, 04-Jan-2024 16:15:41 GMT; path=/; domain=.google.com; HttpOnly
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Alt-Svc: h3=":443"; ma=2592000,h3-29=":443"; ma=2592000
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: Transfer-Encoding: chunked
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server:
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: 00000001
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: 
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: 00000001
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | 
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: 00000001
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: 
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Received header from server: 00000001
05.07.2023 19:15:41 |  | [http] [ID#0] Info:  Connection #12584 to host www.google.com left intact
05.07.2023 19:15:42 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
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Message 69117 - Posted: 5 Jul 2023, 17:42:33 UTC
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OK Still upload7. So that possibility has been ruled out and was probably a silly idea anyway as there have been tasks successfully completed and uploaded by others.
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Message 69121 - Posted: 6 Jul 2023, 8:42:29 UTC
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Update on EAS batch

Feedback from today's CPDN tech meeting.

CPDN have found issues with the batch sorting that they believe explains why some of the uploads are not completing.

Due to the high number of failures with this batch it will closed today. More work will be done to understand the failures and resubmit the modified batch at a later date.
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Message 69122 - Posted: 6 Jul 2023, 9:02:46 UTC

I hope that they allow the currently running work to finish. I have 3 tasks running and they need 2-5 days before they are completed.
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Message 69126 - Posted: 6 Jul 2023, 11:13:32 UTC - in response to Message 69122.  

I hope that they allow the currently running work to finish. I have 3 tasks running and they need 2-5 days before they are completed.
Yes all currently running tasks are unaffected and will be awarded credit. Apologies I should have said.

Previously the batch was suspended so it could have been restarted but it's apparent it's not working and so decision was made in today's meeting to close it.
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Message 69133 - Posted: 6 Jul 2023, 14:37:54 UTC - in response to Message 69126.  
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Yes all currently running tasks are unaffected and will be awarded credit. Apologies I should have said.

Previously the batch was suspended so it could have been restarted but it's apparent it's not working and so decision was made in today's meeting to close it.
I'm not going to run them just for credit. Are they still of use to you? You said before they could be used to compare with the new ones. Is this still the case? If you won't gain anything from them, I'll abort them and run those 25 cores on another project while you get the new ones ready.
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Message 69134 - Posted: 6 Jul 2023, 14:43:44 UTC

What will happen if i abort upload and continue crunching?
Will task be accepted or will it be rejected?
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Message 69138 - Posted: 6 Jul 2023, 15:08:04 UTC - in response to Message 69134.  

What will happen if i abort upload and continue crunching?
Will task be accepted or will it be rejected?
Credit will still be granted for the trickle up files sent which go to a different server and are not affected by the problems with upload7
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Message 69140 - Posted: 6 Jul 2023, 15:14:25 UTC - in response to Message 69138.  

What will happen if i abort upload and continue crunching?
Will task be accepted or will it be rejected?
Credit will still be granted for the trickle up files sent which go to a different server and are not affected by the problems with upload7
But if one file is missing, won't that make the results useless to the scientists?
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Message 69144 - Posted: 6 Jul 2023, 16:52:46 UTC - in response to Message 69140.  

Work units with an incomplete result set will have to be sent out to someone else who will, hopefully, be able to run to completion. This is just the same as any other incomplete wok unit.
The scientists may be able to use the results returned during any trickle-ups, but I suspect that will depend on what parts of the complete results the trickle-ups represent.
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Message 69145 - Posted: 6 Jul 2023, 17:42:26 UTC - in response to Message 69144.  

Work units with an incomplete result set will have to be sent out to someone else who will, hopefully, be able to run to completion. This is just the same as any other incomplete wok unit.
The scientists may be able to use the results returned during any trickle-ups, but I suspect that will depend on what parts of the complete results the trickle-ups represent.
As this EAS batch has been closed, if a task fails in the workunit, no more tasks from that workunit will be sent.
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Message 69147 - Posted: 7 Jul 2023, 0:29:30 UTC - in response to Message 69144.  

Work units with an incomplete result set will have to be sent out to someone else who will, hopefully, be able to run to completion. This is just the same as any other incomplete wok unit.
The scientists may be able to use the results returned during any trickle-ups, but I suspect that will depend on what parts of the complete results the trickle-ups represent.
Is there some reason I can't do 3 trickles, then you get given it when I crash it, and start from where I left off?
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Message 69148 - Posted: 7 Jul 2023, 0:30:06 UTC - in response to Message 69145.  

As this EAS batch has been closed, if a task fails in the workunit, no more tasks from that workunit will be sent.
Should we abort tasks in progress? Are they any use?
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