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Harri Liljeroos

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Message 69586 - Posted: 5 Sep 2023, 18:02:47 UTC

The page on web site that shows my computers is still showing 0 for average credit on all computers. This means that Boinc manager is also showing 0 RAC for them.
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Mr. P Hucker

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Message 69587 - Posted: 5 Sep 2023, 18:11:52 UTC - in response to Message 69586.  
Last modified: 5 Sep 2023, 18:12:28 UTC

Boincstats seems confused, it says I haven't changed position in the last day/week/month, and I've received no credits, but I know I have. I was 583rd before the stats stopped exporting, now I'm 520th.

Doesn't bother me really as I just note the positions on my own graph.

Hopefully now I can run Windows or Linux tasks, I can plough ahead soon.
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NOSNHOP

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Message 69588 - Posted: 6 Sep 2023, 1:17:17 UTC

Check the stats sites again as looks like something changed today. I just picked up a ton of credit. Kudos Andy if that was your work!
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Bryn Mawr

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Message 69589 - Posted: 6 Sep 2023, 6:44:54 UTC - in response to Message 69587.  

Boincstats seems confused, it says I haven't changed position in the last day/week/month, and I've received no credits, but I know I have. I was 583rd before the stats stopped exporting, now I'm 520th.

Doesn't bother me really as I just note the positions on my own graph.

Hopefully now I can run Windows or Linux tasks, I can plough ahead soon.


As always, BS shows intra-day updates under “Today” and only integrates the accumulation into the day/week/month totals and the team/country/world positions at 15:00 UTC during the daily update.
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Mr. P Hucker

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Message 69590 - Posted: 6 Sep 2023, 10:05:50 UTC - in response to Message 69589.  
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As always, BS shows intra-day updates under “Today” and only integrates the accumulation into the day/week/month totals and the team/country/world positions at 15:00 UTC during the daily update.
Ah, I didn't realise there was such a thing as intra-day. I thought everything was checked once a day. It's a weird site, they use Google Cloud! I'd run my own server cheaper. I can't get Google Cloud to work anyway, their interface is appalling, it asked me how many CPUs I wanted, I chose a large number, which was over some limit they didn't tell me about, and even though the server wasn't then issued to me, I "used up my allowance". And there's nowhere to talk to them apart from Stack Exchange, which any question you send to gets downvoted and removed for being off topic.
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Jean-David Beyer

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Message 69591 - Posted: 6 Sep 2023, 11:17:03 UTC - in response to Message 69588.  
Last modified: 6 Sep 2023, 11:20:02 UTC

Check the stats sites again as looks like something changed today. I just picked up a ton of credit. Kudos Andy if that was your work!


Me too. I just picked up 6 megabits of credit. All in one swell foop. They were issued some months ago.
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Glenn Carver

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Message 69592 - Posted: 6 Sep 2023, 12:00:01 UTC

Confirmation from Andy@CPDN that the export of credit is working again.
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Bryn Mawr

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Message 69596 - Posted: 6 Sep 2023, 15:22:28 UTC - in response to Message 69592.  

Confirmation from Andy@CPDN that the export of credit is working again.


Please pass on my thanks 🙏
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ProfileBill F

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Message 69616 - Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 3:15:19 UTC

Well it has been I think 7 days. Is the script going to be set to run once a week again now that we are back up and running on Credit ?

Thanks
Bill F
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Mr. P Hucker

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Message 69617 - Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 3:42:12 UTC - in response to Message 69616.  

Well it has been I think 7 days. Is the script going to be set to run once a week again now that we are back up and running on Credit?
We'll need some tasks too!
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Message 69618 - Posted: 14 Sep 2023, 22:22:52 UTC - in response to Message 69591.  
Last modified: 14 Sep 2023, 22:23:55 UTC

Me too. I just picked up 6 megabits of credit. All in one swell foop. They were issued some months ago.

My last task was in Febuary, and we're adjacent in rank now. I'm hoping to get more Linux tasks haha!
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Jean-David Beyer

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Message 69619 - Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 0:01:39 UTC - in response to Message 69618.  

I'm hoping to get more Linux tasks haha!


Me roo.

Remember, though: Hope is just deferred disappointment.
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ProfileBill F

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Message 69725 - Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 3:16:49 UTC

Well since the powers above fixed Credit Export on September 08 credits have been exported daily not weekly. AND they have been consistent.

Our Thanks and congratulations for a Fix and upgrade all rolled into one.

Bill F
In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
There was no expiration date.


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ProfileDave Jackson
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Message 69726 - Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 5:11:27 UTC - in response to Message 69725.  
Last modified: 10 Oct 2023, 5:20:56 UTC

Well since the powers above fixed Credit Export on September 08 credits have been exported daily not weekly. AND they have been consistent.
That was always the plan with the new credit script.

The only minor fly in the ointment is the average credit for hosts which remains on zero. Andy is aware of it and Richard has identified the likely area of the code involved. As as far as I know none of the various credit events (I stand to be corrected on this) rely on host average credit this is going to be a lower priority than user average and indeed exports.
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Mr. P Hucker

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Message 69746 - Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 17:56:01 UTC - in response to Message 69726.  

I'm seeing RAC in Boinc correctly. It can't calculate it itself as it has no idea what other hosts I have. So the server must be feeding me the correct RAC.
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ProfileDave Jackson
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Message 69751 - Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 21:09:42 UTC - in response to Message 69746.  

I'm seeing RAC in Boinc correctly. It can't calculate it itself as it has no idea what other hosts I have. So the server must be feeding me the correct RAC.
Yes, user RAC is calculated correctly. Host RAC is showing as zero on all my clients.
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Mr. P Hucker

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Message 69752 - Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 21:16:38 UTC - in response to Message 69751.  

I'm seeing RAC in Boinc correctly. It can't calculate it itself as it has no idea what other hosts I have. So the server must be feeding me the correct RAC.
Yes, user RAC is calculated correctly. Host RAC is showing as zero on all my clients.
Same here, I didn't realise there was another column sat in front of me.
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Dadu from Silesia

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Message 69994 - Posted: 27 Oct 2023, 1:05:24 UTC

Hello

I calculated 9 units for 19901,44 credits that should be 179112,96 credits but according to boinc stats only 99,146 credits were added.

Is there a mistake on my side?

https://www.boincstats.com/stats/2/user/detail/704031/lastDays

22347323 12227357 1541733 14 Oct 2023, 8:38:06 UTC 20 Oct 2023, 1:23:27 UTC Hotovo 490,170.72 211,258.60 19,901.44 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86
22347244 12224293 1541733 13 Oct 2023, 22:31:25 UTC 19 Oct 2023, 14:43:42 UTC Hotovo 486,856.04 206,092.80 19,901.44 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86
22346807 12225333 1541733 12 Oct 2023, 15:28:37 UTC 18 Oct 2023, 10:34:30 UTC Hotovo 497,281.00 207,641.40 19,901.44 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86
22345994 12229633 1541733 11 Oct 2023, 4:01:16 UTC 16 Oct 2023, 23:59:23 UTC Hotovo 500,414.83 201,378.00 19,901.44 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86
22345821 12225456 1541733 10 Oct 2023, 17:54:41 UTC 16 Oct 2023, 13:49:34 UTC Hotovo 502,304.12 202,406.90 19,901.44 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86
22344841 12229177 1541733 8 Oct 2023, 6:48:46 UTC 19 Oct 2023, 4:39:09 UTC Hotovo 502,190.27 205,309.60 19,901.44 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86
22344368 12225174 1541733 7 Oct 2023, 4:07:03 UTC 15 Oct 2023, 14:12:29 UTC Hotovo 504,719.29 206,543.90 19,901.44 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86
22336368 12223912 1541733 6 Oct 2023, 4:01:19 UTC 19 Oct 2023, 5:39:47 UTC Hotovo 498,986.68 213,320.30 19,901.44 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86
22338580 12226124 1541733 5 Oct 2023, 15:48:25 UTC 19 Oct 2023, 5:39:47 UTC Hotovo 502,116.88 227,516.30 19,901.44 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86
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ProfileDave Jackson
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Message 69996 - Posted: 27 Oct 2023, 4:42:49 UTC

Is there a mistake on my side?
Not sure, will have a look later. Richard is looking at some anomalies in his own credit score and at the script that deals with the credit. Credit is something I usually pay little attention to so I may not be able to spot what is going on.
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Richard Haselgrove

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Message 69997 - Posted: 27 Oct 2023, 7:50:18 UTC - in response to Message 69994.  

You did better than me. You got 55% of the nominal amount, where I only got 53% (plus fractions in each case).

Further details and analysis in thread 9221.

BTW, credit is now awarded in real time, seconds after trickles and tasks are reported - this thread can be retired.
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